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calling all beings y'all

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yes welcome back to calling all beings

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i'm your host dj san marco here with you

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on a wednesday night with another

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special guest we keep bringing you dope

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people

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i mean and when i say dope i don't mean

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in the way that you guys think of me as

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dope which is in the actual sense of the

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word i mean dopadelic people all right

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so i'm your host dj san marco along with

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my co-host

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the amazing the not to be compared

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the deep the thoughtful

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the intellectual

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and uh and now let's get to what's

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really going down tonight um

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you know there's been a lot of uh

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stories that you guys have heard people

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have shared their experiences with the

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phenomenon with beings uh most most

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recently anjali who's probably also been

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in contact with our next guest

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from alabama

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party people put your hands together

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he's my ball brother yes

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and let me tell you something

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oh david um there are going to be some

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very deep and intelligent questions

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tonight and you're going to find that

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most of them will come from me

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okay the the more shallow sort of

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meaningless stuff

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that would be nathan so let me just give

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you an example um we lost him

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oh my god david where are you he'll be

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back he'll be back i'm sure he'll be

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back he's going to come keep going yeah

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he'll be back well no i can't keep going

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because he needs to be there for the

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um so as i was saying the the deeper and

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more thoughtful questions will more than

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likely come from me um and i'll just

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give you a sampling right here

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so david tell us what happened

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i'm just kidding

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i knew you'd love that nathan okay and

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with that i'm gonna turn it over to my

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aforementioned brilliant co-host nathan

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to kick this off brother

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yes thank you dj david great to have you

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with us uh this evening uh we we are

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very very fortunate to have you on the

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show and i'm looking forward to hearing

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your story um as we've talked with you

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before uh we want to make sure that you

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feel comfortable and feel a part of our

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our family when you're on the show and

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so we're going to do this in the way

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that you want to do it i know we've

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talked a little bit about kind of where

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we want to go uh with the show and and

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and kind of the direction that we want

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to go and so i think we'll we'll get

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started here and uh maybe you can

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do a little introduction tell folks what

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uh what what you want them to know about

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you and then let's start with uh where

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things got really going for you in the

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late 90s

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okay um can you guys hear me okay

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yeah sound great loud and clear

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as far as my my personal background i

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don't have i don't fly fa-18s i didn't

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work for the government i don't have

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incredible uh

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you know backstory

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i'm married young i had a family young i

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worked in uh real estate for the last 20

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accomplished some pretty cool things but

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i don't want to really wave that around

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as a way to convince people that i'm

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not full of it and and incredible

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willing to answer any questions you know

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uh or or what have you if people have

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them uh but i don't really feel like

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bragging on myself to make myself sound

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credible

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you know i'm a pretty ordinary dude i

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guess aside from

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the hell

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but um

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i'm just wanting to talk about it

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i really do have faith in this

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disclosure movement that's happening

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i wasn't a part of ufology

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for a long time because it's so

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convoluted

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now i'm back in it because i really feel

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like there's there's people making some

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smart moves

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and and and getting the ball rolling

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and i just kind of feel like

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i've got this thing that happened to me

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and i've told some people but i haven't

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really done it in a public way i've left

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little bits and pieces on twitter but i

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haven't just kind of like sat down and

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told the whole story

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and uh you guys were nice enough to uh

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approach me and and uh let me do that so

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that's why i'm here

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and and with with that correct with that

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credit that we've built up does that

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mean that you'll play guitar for us to

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close out the show

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okay okay

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all right next time and nathan back to

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yeah excellent excellent excellent

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yeah we'll work on our little ensemble

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piece for the next show i think that'll

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so david where do you uh you know i

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again we really appreciate having you on

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and and i know this is not easy uh to do

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and so we don't take that lightly but

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we're you know where does the story

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let me preface all of it by saying i'm

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fully like i have one foot in the normal

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world where my parents and my in-laws

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educated hard-working people

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on you know the family on both sides

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doesn't get into this kind of stuff

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and i respect that and there's a part of

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my life of our lives that doesn't

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really want that in it

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but then there's another part that

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i'm fully aware of how absolutely crazy

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this sounds to just the average person

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who just got off work

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or that has other things going on and

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saying that that i'm fully aware of how

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uh crazy this all sounds

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you know i listened to ryan bledsoe

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and when you listen to his story in his

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background it's not very different from

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your background uh

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you know guys from the south you know

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father's out hunting doing things like

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that fishing and these things happen so

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uh nobody in the town is like oh wow you

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must be absolutely out of your mind

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people might go oh wow that happened wow

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they'd believe right but

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that's you know it's just a function of

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you know what

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i'll just go ahead and get into it

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because i was gonna go for it

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i was just so much i could say and

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it's a lot like this this story covers

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about three years roughly

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and uh it covers my wife

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my children my mother my brother-in-law

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and and i do kind of want my privacy

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to maintain

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you know again i'll answer questions but

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don't want like

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skeptics and debunkers and researchers

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and investigators like

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right my butt trying to find out if

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my mom who is who she says she is or

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right you know all that kind of stuff

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i'll i'll get into it okay so

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i'm i'm 17 years old and i'm a straight

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arrow kid i i might have smoked a joint

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like a couple puffs off of one had half

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a beer and passed out i was i was a good

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uh this would have been like 97

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um and i was on the way home from a

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concert and it was an outdoor concert so

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late spring early summer summer time

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and we're driving home we're going north

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up the interstate we get off the ramp

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that's you know i'm not a great judge of

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like how far away things are how close

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things are how high they are i'm gonna

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roughly estimate that it's probably

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three to five miles away

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and it's not terribly high off of the

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horizon like i'm not having to crane my

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neck you know it's i can see it out the

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windshield

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and it's a blimp it looks about the size

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of a blimp maybe a little bigger

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and it's got a little cap on the bottom

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of it and i think i just i remember this

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because a lot of

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i stopped myself because i know people

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are like well you know memory degrades

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over time and it does but like i don't

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remember what i had for lunch at my

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grandmother's funeral but i remember

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seeing the body in the casket you know

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things stick out absolutely so i see

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this little

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cap on the bottom of it

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and i think that thing's awful small for

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the people

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and then i noticed that it has the same

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cap on top of it

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oh we lost oh it's awesome

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so we were lost at cap on top cap on

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bottom

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doesn't necessarily lend itself to what

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uh are we good

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yeah we're good welcome back man

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we lost you on the uh the the size of

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the cap on the and you were talking

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about on the bottom as well as on on the

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top

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yes there was a there was a cap on the

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bottom of it too small for people i was

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confused

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same cap was on top of it and then the

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whole thing is about is shaped like a

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blimp

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you know or or like a liquid advil

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yeah okay

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oh advil liquid gel cap

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oblong kind of stretched out

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and it has like two grooves

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carved out in the side of it

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or like two indentions inside of it and

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it's just moving peculiar

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you know like a like there's a there's

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an airport near my house and small

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planes will kind of like bank this way

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or bank that way or up or down and they

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have like a red you know and this was

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just like a steady just slow

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all the while this thing is flashing

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like multiple colors like

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i can't explain it it's just like

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almost looks holographic

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yeah and so the whole surface of the

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object is doing that yeah and it's

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giving off this like

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purple pink reddish hue

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and it's also emanating red light so you

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know the way a christmas light looks

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from a distance and it has points of

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light that come off of it

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yeah um

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it it had that it had several kind of

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points of light that were coming off of

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it and it's just kind of moving just

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slow and steady

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and i'm sitting there and it just you

328
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know and all of these

329
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thoughts are coming to me over the

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course of about five seconds

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i'm watching it go and i just go

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it was just processing what i saw just

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going like yeah is that a blimp why does

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why is the why is that so small why is

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it multiple colors why is it glowing red

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light

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and then i thought and and i have to

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preface before i say this i was not into

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star trek i was not into star wars i was

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not into conspiracy theories there was

341
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no reason for me to be thinking anything

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other than like

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i saw some episode on unsolved mysteries

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in the 80s or early 90s or i'd seen like

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an alien movie and i just thought to

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myself like is that a ufo and there's an

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and all the while you know my friend is

348
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next to me in the car

349
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and as soon as i thought that

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and i'm not saying it's connected but as

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soon as i thought that that thing just

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went

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i mean it took off like it had been shot

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out of a gun it just went

355
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from like

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slowly moving to just suddenly like in

357
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the blink of an eye just this tracer

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because it was at night it's probably

359
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about 12 30 a.m and there's like this i

360
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left that out 12 30 a.m right okay

361
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yeah give me 30 minutes uh and it's just

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this tracer this red tracer just

363
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stretches across the horizon and you can

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see

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it

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like a bulb and then all the way back to

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where it was is just a point just a tip

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and it looks like a sperm that's just

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been like stretched out

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yeah it might be a lot of an analogy but

371
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that's what i thought when i saw it sure

372
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and then the the tail closed up behind

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it about this fast

374
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and it's interesting

375
00:15:09,910 --> 00:15:07,120
as soon as the tail closed up behind it

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it was just a twinkling red light like a

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star or a planet you know same level on

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the horizon like it was just on a

379
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level and it just kind of twinkled and

380
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got dim and then it was just gone it

381
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just disappeared

382
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and i looked to my friend and he looks

383
00:15:28,710 --> 00:15:26,079
at me and for the researchers and

384
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skeptics and debunkers and investigators

385
00:15:31,590 --> 00:15:30,240
i haven't talked to that guy in 20 years

386
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i'm not just going to cold [\h__\h] them out

387
00:15:33,990 --> 00:15:32,560
of the blue and be like hey man you

388
00:15:36,870 --> 00:15:34,000
remember this because i got people from

389
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ufo ufo twitter

390
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hey david can i can i

391
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can i interject for a second don't worry

392
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about refutations of anybody or trying

393
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to qualify

394
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based on any skeptic or any idiot that's

395
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out there that just

396
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uh likes to get on there and tell people

397
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they're lying or something we don't care

398
00:15:59,030 --> 00:15:56,639
we're here to interview so just tell

399
00:16:01,269 --> 00:15:59,040
your story and don't even worry about

400
00:16:03,350 --> 00:16:01,279
qualifying because i have zero worry

401
00:16:05,189 --> 00:16:03,360
about these people and their and their

402
00:16:07,269 --> 00:16:05,199
thoughts so let's just let's hear from i

403
00:16:08,710 --> 00:16:07,279
want to hear from you

404
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okay okay

405
00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:09,600
so

406
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my friend turns to me and i turned to

407
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him

408
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and i can't remember if i said he said

409
00:16:17,749 --> 00:16:15,759
he said was that a

410
00:16:19,749 --> 00:16:17,759
you know doc and we just laughed

411
00:16:21,990 --> 00:16:19,759
hysterically just laughing and i

412
00:16:23,670 --> 00:16:22,000
remember thinking like man i just like

413
00:16:25,990 --> 00:16:23,680
won the lottery or got struck by

414
00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:26,000
lightning like i i realized that this

415
00:16:31,430 --> 00:16:28,720
was a uffo

416
00:16:33,030 --> 00:16:31,440
i don't know what that meant but i but

417
00:16:36,710 --> 00:16:33,040
you know i just was like oh this is like

418
00:16:38,389 --> 00:16:36,720
the movies or like the um

419
00:16:39,430 --> 00:16:38,399
you know unsolved mysteries or something

420
00:16:40,629 --> 00:16:39,440
and i'm just

421
00:16:42,550 --> 00:16:40,639
one of these people that just happened

422
00:16:44,550 --> 00:16:42,560
to be privy to it i just caught it you

423
00:16:46,790 --> 00:16:44,560
know yeah yeah and it did kind of feel

424
00:16:48,949 --> 00:16:46,800
like it had been caught

425
00:16:50,550 --> 00:16:48,959
you know like i've seen it at 12 30

426
00:16:51,749 --> 00:16:50,560
night pooting around and it just went

427
00:16:53,749 --> 00:16:51,759
whoop

428
00:16:55,749 --> 00:16:53,759
did you stop the car and all that

429
00:16:57,430 --> 00:16:55,759
business or were you just watching

430
00:16:59,269 --> 00:16:57,440
through the windshield

431
00:17:00,550 --> 00:16:59,279
i was at the top of the exit you know

432
00:17:02,230 --> 00:17:00,560
how when you get off the interstate off

433
00:17:05,110 --> 00:17:02,240
an exit ramp

434
00:17:06,309 --> 00:17:05,120
you get to like the top of the exit

435
00:17:08,789 --> 00:17:06,319
and you kind of have to sit there for a

436
00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:08,799
minute check traffic both ways it is

437
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parked

438
00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:11,919
okay

439
00:17:18,549 --> 00:17:13,760
so

440
00:17:21,590 --> 00:17:18,559
say just a few seconds or yeah

441
00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:21,600
literally probably within 10 15 seconds

442
00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:23,760
wow that's a lot longer than mine was

443
00:17:27,270 --> 00:17:25,280
and you know what see there's something

444
00:17:29,270 --> 00:17:27,280
and nathan there's something to be said

445
00:17:31,590 --> 00:17:29,280
for him stopping at those off-ramps a

446
00:17:33,110 --> 00:17:31,600
guy like me that blows through that stop

447
00:17:36,070 --> 00:17:33,120
sign just kind of rolls through i missed

448
00:17:38,150 --> 00:17:36,080
the ufo well yeah no please obey local

449
00:17:41,350 --> 00:17:38,160
traffic law that's yeah yes

450
00:17:43,350 --> 00:17:41,360
and if you do that what could happen

451
00:17:46,950 --> 00:17:43,360
you might see

452
00:17:48,789 --> 00:17:46,960
yeah you're back don't worry

453
00:17:50,230 --> 00:17:48,799
okay i don't know what's going on i

454
00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:50,240
don't know if that's on my end i assume

455
00:17:53,830 --> 00:17:51,840
it is

456
00:17:56,710 --> 00:17:53,840
yeah do you have two nets in your house

457
00:17:58,789 --> 00:17:56,720
do you have uh uh like i have two nets

458
00:18:01,029 --> 00:17:58,799
do you have two different nets and maybe

459
00:18:02,950 --> 00:18:01,039
your wife is using one and streaming and

460
00:18:04,549 --> 00:18:02,960
then if you go on the other net

461
00:18:07,029 --> 00:18:04,559
no i'm out

462
00:18:09,110 --> 00:18:07,039
i'm out at the lake house and it's okay

463
00:18:10,310 --> 00:18:09,120
it's kind of i'm the only one out here

464
00:18:11,510 --> 00:18:10,320
so

465
00:18:13,430 --> 00:18:11,520
it's no problem

466
00:18:14,870 --> 00:18:13,440
you're not gone for long so anytime you

467
00:18:17,590 --> 00:18:14,880
leave it's just a chance for dj to

468
00:18:22,549 --> 00:18:19,669
hey you know what i haven't talked to

469
00:18:24,070 --> 00:18:22,559
david yet about buying uh you know maybe

470
00:18:25,510 --> 00:18:24,080
five of those hundred acres but that's

471
00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:25,520
going to come after the show yeah please

472
00:18:40,870 --> 00:18:39,190
i don't remember

473
00:18:43,430 --> 00:18:40,880
the drive home

474
00:18:45,350 --> 00:18:43,440
i remember dropping him off

475
00:18:47,110 --> 00:18:45,360
i don't remember driving home i don't

476
00:18:49,830 --> 00:18:47,120
remember discussing it but then again

477
00:18:50,549 --> 00:18:49,840
this was like 20 years ago over 20 years

478
00:18:53,350 --> 00:18:50,559
ago

479
00:18:54,710 --> 00:18:53,360
okay um so i just don't recall it i'm

480
00:18:55,669 --> 00:18:54,720
not saying there was anything weird

481
00:18:57,110 --> 00:18:55,679
there

482
00:18:59,830 --> 00:18:57,120
right i do remember going to school the

483
00:19:02,310 --> 00:18:59,840
next day and

484
00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:02,320
you know talking to my friends about it

485
00:19:09,029 --> 00:19:05,280
and you know 50 of the people were like

486
00:19:11,510 --> 00:19:09,039
no way and then the other 50 were like

487
00:19:12,470 --> 00:19:11,520
that's weird tell me more

488
00:19:17,270 --> 00:19:12,480
and

489
00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:17,280
know i just kind of was like wow that's

490
00:19:22,710 --> 00:19:20,000
neat uh but i didn't become a conspiracy

491
00:19:23,590 --> 00:19:22,720
guy i didn't become obsessed with sci-fi

492
00:19:29,430 --> 00:19:23,600
i

493
00:19:34,150 --> 00:19:31,029
so that was

494
00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:34,160
you know the first sighting

495
00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:37,360
and it coincides with

496
00:19:40,630 --> 00:19:39,760
something else that was going on in my

497
00:19:42,630 --> 00:19:40,640
life

498
00:19:44,630 --> 00:19:42,640
that's later down the road

499
00:19:46,950 --> 00:19:44,640
that i can get through later because i

500
00:19:47,830 --> 00:19:46,960
don't want to jump around the story

501
00:19:50,150 --> 00:19:47,840
so

502
00:19:51,029 --> 00:19:50,160
fast forward 10 years

503
00:19:52,630 --> 00:19:51,039
okay

504
00:19:54,070 --> 00:19:52,640
2007

505
00:19:55,350 --> 00:19:54,080
17.

506
00:19:57,190 --> 00:19:55,360
wait

507
00:20:00,230 --> 00:19:57,200
2007

508
00:20:02,390 --> 00:20:00,240
yeah

509
00:20:04,830 --> 00:20:02,400
um and

510
00:20:08,789 --> 00:20:04,840
i'm working the late

511
00:20:13,029 --> 00:20:11,029
and

512
00:20:14,789 --> 00:20:13,039
the guy that was with me

513
00:20:16,710 --> 00:20:14,799
it just asked me a question out of the

514
00:20:19,990 --> 00:20:16,720
blue he's like hey man what do you think

515
00:20:21,990 --> 00:20:20,000
about ufos so you know 10 years past i

516
00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:22,000
don't really it's not a part of my life

517
00:20:25,990 --> 00:20:24,320
i don't i don't think about it i uh and

518
00:20:28,630 --> 00:20:26,000
he says what do you think about ufos and

519
00:20:30,549 --> 00:20:28,640
i'm saying well you know

520
00:20:33,029 --> 00:20:30,559
the universe is a big place there's

521
00:20:35,750 --> 00:20:33,039
exoplanets i guess it's you know it's

522
00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:35,760
possible and then suddenly that whole

523
00:20:40,390 --> 00:20:38,080
scenario of seeing that ufo just came

524
00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:40,400
like rushing back into my memory and i

525
00:20:46,470 --> 00:20:43,919
was like oh my god like i've seen one

526
00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:46,480
and so he gets me to tell the story and

527
00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:48,240
i relay the same thing i just told you

528
00:20:51,990 --> 00:20:50,400
guys

529
00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:52,000
and um

530
00:20:56,070 --> 00:20:53,440
you know then he tells a story about

531
00:20:59,029 --> 00:20:56,080
something he had seen and and on a small

532
00:21:03,029 --> 00:20:59,039
tangent i i have found that in these

533
00:21:07,590 --> 00:21:04,870
you know about five out of ten people

534
00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:07,600
will have some kind of like paranormal

535
00:21:11,990 --> 00:21:10,880
story to tell and the other five know

536
00:21:14,710 --> 00:21:12,000
somebody

537
00:21:17,029 --> 00:21:14,720
so really not uncommon i just don't

538
00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:17,039
think a lot of people talk about it

539
00:21:21,830 --> 00:21:20,480
yeah people don't he suggests to me

540
00:21:24,070 --> 00:21:21,840
he was like have you ever listened to

541
00:21:25,669 --> 00:21:24,080
coast to coast stay in

542
00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:25,679
i'm like

543
00:21:29,110 --> 00:21:27,600
he's like you should listen to it and

544
00:21:31,350 --> 00:21:29,120
you should look into the subject

545
00:21:33,590 --> 00:21:31,360
especially since you've seen one

546
00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:33,600
i'm like okay

547
00:21:37,909 --> 00:21:35,520
so on the way home i listened to coast

548
00:21:39,669 --> 00:21:37,919
coast am and it's uh i think it's

549
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:39,679
dolores cannon

550
00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:41,600
and she's talking about the indigo

551
00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:43,840
children

552
00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:46,080
and i'm just kind of going like what

553
00:21:50,630 --> 00:21:48,960
like what am i hearing

554
00:21:52,789 --> 00:21:50,640
and

555
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:52,799
i the next day

556
00:21:58,149 --> 00:21:56,480
i google it i just google like ufo

557
00:22:00,470 --> 00:21:58,159
and the first thing that comes up at the

558
00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:00,480
top of the search is bob lazar

559
00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:02,880
yeah and so again i'm coming into this

560
00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:05,520
subject knowing nothing okay nothing

561
00:22:08,789 --> 00:22:06,720
other than the fact that i've seen

562
00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:08,799
something i'm not still

563
00:22:13,590 --> 00:22:10,480
i didn't even watch star wars until i

564
00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:13,600
was in my you know mid-20s i i just this

565
00:22:18,149 --> 00:22:16,080
is off my radar too

566
00:22:20,310 --> 00:22:18,159
so i watched the bob lazar documentary

567
00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:20,320
and i'm just like

568
00:22:25,510 --> 00:22:23,440
my mouth my jaw's like on the floor like

569
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:25,520
you know i don't have

570
00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:27,600
an army of debunkers telling me this

571
00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:29,360
guy's full of it i'm just listening to

572
00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:31,840
this guy tell a story i'm not sensing

573
00:22:38,470 --> 00:22:35,200
any you know lies and he's like yeah you

574
00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:38,480
know aliens are real

575
00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:40,880
government knows we have access to their

576
00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:42,000
craft

577
00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:42,960
and

578
00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:45,200
i'm not 100 sure but i think they had

579
00:22:49,669 --> 00:22:48,320
something to do with our creation

580
00:22:51,669 --> 00:22:49,679
oh wow

581
00:22:52,630 --> 00:22:51,679
did he say that

582
00:22:54,549 --> 00:22:52,640
yeah

583
00:22:56,549 --> 00:22:54,559
you know his i think

584
00:22:59,350 --> 00:22:56,559
you know

585
00:23:01,750 --> 00:22:59,360
his the way he tells it is that

586
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:01,760
he's not sure what disinformation he was

587
00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:04,559
fed and what information he was fed

588
00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:08,400
right but he was briefed on that that

589
00:23:14,149 --> 00:23:11,360
600 000 years ago they came here

590
00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:14,159
and integrated their dna into

591
00:23:18,070 --> 00:23:16,640
homo sapiens and about every 600 years

592
00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:18,080
would come back

593
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:20,480
and upgrade and upgrade

594
00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:21,280
and

595
00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:22,640
here we are

596
00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:24,480
and they're still kind of coming around

597
00:23:27,190 --> 00:23:26,000
and tinkering

598
00:23:29,350 --> 00:23:27,200
and so

599
00:23:31,590 --> 00:23:29,360
i have no context for this information

600
00:23:33,430 --> 00:23:31,600
yeah i'm right

601
00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:33,440
no go ahead no

602
00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:34,880
i was just going to say i just want to

603
00:23:38,230 --> 00:23:36,480
just go around so the voice you're

604
00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:38,240
hearing and the experience you're

605
00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:40,400
hearing is that of david john lanier our

606
00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:42,559
guest he's going to talk about his

607
00:23:47,269 --> 00:23:45,360
experience both seeing and standing in

608
00:23:50,470 --> 00:23:47,279
front of interacting

609
00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:50,480
in his house with uh beings

610
00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:53,039
uh my co-host of course is uh the

611
00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:56,320
amazing nathan at a wave soul and i'm dj

612
00:24:01,190 --> 00:23:58,159
san marco your erstwhile host please

613
00:24:03,990 --> 00:24:02,470
so

614
00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:04,000
you know i have no context for any of

615
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:07,360
this i i'm not into ufology i don't know

616
00:24:13,029 --> 00:24:10,960
that he did he really did not remember

617
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:13,039
i'm just listening to this guy talk and

618
00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:16,480
i'm going like holy mother like

619
00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:19,200
is this for real because i've seen one

620
00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:22,000
like i've seen a ufo and it actually you

621
00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:24,000
know the one i saw kind of sounds like

622
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:26,240
something he just described

623
00:24:30,789 --> 00:24:28,240
is that what's going on because like i

624
00:24:32,789 --> 00:24:30,799
was raised in a christian home

625
00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:32,799
you know i left christianity

626
00:24:37,269 --> 00:24:35,120
became nihilist studied buddhism you

627
00:24:38,549 --> 00:24:37,279
know

628
00:24:40,549 --> 00:24:38,559
experimented with psychedelics just

629
00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:40,559
trying to figure out like god in the

630
00:24:43,110 --> 00:24:42,400
universe like what's going on and i'm

631
00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:43,120
like

632
00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:46,640
dude that's it it's aliens

633
00:24:50,710 --> 00:24:49,520
so that might have something to do with

634
00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:50,720
like

635
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:53,679
everything else that is about to happen

636
00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:56,240
you know where my mind went with that

637
00:25:02,630 --> 00:24:58,240
sure shift to perspective you know

638
00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:05,269
that you know to get to the next part of

639
00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:06,640
the story

640
00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:09,520
i i start studying it you know i start

641
00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:12,159
studying the subject and

642
00:25:17,909 --> 00:25:15,520
i'm not like super in-depth into it but

643
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:17,919
it's on my radar

644
00:25:20,870 --> 00:25:19,760
and so around this time

645
00:25:23,909 --> 00:25:20,880
i'm

646
00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:23,919
i have a music project on the side

647
00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:25,360
and

648
00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:28,320
my brother-in-law who's a cartoonist is

649
00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:30,159
drawing the album cover

650
00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:31,919
and he sends the album cover to me i

651
00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:33,760
gave him the music i said draw whatever

652
00:25:38,870 --> 00:25:35,039
comes to mind

653
00:25:41,669 --> 00:25:38,880
just listen to the music and so he draws

654
00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:41,679
um a ufo and he was like is this a good

655
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:44,240
album cover and i'm like dude no

656
00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:46,320
i was like what is that you know because

657
00:25:49,669 --> 00:25:48,320
i'm sitting here so unprompted he didn't

658
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:49,679
you didn't ask him to draw the ufo you

659
00:25:54,230 --> 00:25:51,600
just drew what came to came to mind yeah

660
00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:54,240
wow yeah and and so he sends us some

661
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:56,960
like oh my god you know and and that's

662
00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:58,559
when i start picking up on the concept

663
00:26:03,350 --> 00:26:00,880
of like synchronicity

664
00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:03,360
yeah and so i'm going like

665
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:04,640
okay

666
00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:06,720
wait you know because i'm also learning

667
00:26:11,909 --> 00:26:09,840
about like telepathy

668
00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:11,919
grays and

669
00:26:16,470 --> 00:26:14,480
zeta particula and betty and barney hill

670
00:26:18,470 --> 00:26:16,480
and and all this kind of stuff

671
00:26:20,149 --> 00:26:18,480
and now he sends me a drawing of ufos

672
00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:20,159
and i'm like this is

673
00:26:25,269 --> 00:26:23,360
not going well like where is this going

674
00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:25,279
so

675
00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:26,400
okay

676
00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:28,080
this kind of thing goes on for a while i

677
00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:29,520
don't know how long because this was

678
00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:35,669
that i'm kind of going down this ufo

679
00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:37,039
rabbit hole

680
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:40,720
yep not again not like super in depth

681
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:42,000
and i know i just kind of jumped from

682
00:26:46,630 --> 00:26:44,480
2007 to 2009 but

683
00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:46,640
2009 is when like the meat of this kind

684
00:26:49,029 --> 00:26:47,919
of started

685
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:49,039
sure

686
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:54,149
i'm downstairs in my basement folding

687
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:56,320
clothes folding laundry because the

688
00:26:59,430 --> 00:26:57,600
laundry room's downstairs we have a

689
00:27:01,590 --> 00:26:59,440
little there's a little window it's the

690
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:01,600
old house it's next door to my new house

691
00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:03,760
it's all on the same property

692
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:04,799
um

693
00:27:08,870 --> 00:27:06,240
and i look out the window and there's

694
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:10,870
light it's just kind of like looks like

695
00:27:14,870 --> 00:27:12,880
it's moving around like this

696
00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:14,880
and then there's two other smaller

697
00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:16,080
lights

698
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:18,640
kind of moving around near it

699
00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:21,600
and i'm like no way and i just get

700
00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:24,240
scared like i'm like no

701
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:26,640
and i look out and i swear like one of

702
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:28,320
the little lights

703
00:27:33,190 --> 00:27:30,720
flies up and touches the bigger one and

704
00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:33,200
like just disappears into it like just

705
00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:36,240
becomes one with this

706
00:27:42,149 --> 00:27:38,080
thing and i'm like that's a star that's

707
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:42,159
i'm i'm going crazy and i ran upstairs

708
00:27:46,549 --> 00:27:44,799
and i look out the window in the blinds

709
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:46,559
and i'm kind of a little panicked you

710
00:27:49,990 --> 00:27:48,000
know because at this point my wife

711
00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:50,000
didn't know

712
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:51,760
about any of this this was kind of like

713
00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:53,600
just in the basement you know

714
00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:55,039
sure yeah

715
00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:57,120
doing doing god's work down there and

716
00:28:02,789 --> 00:28:00,399
she didn't know anything

717
00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:02,799
she's like what is it i'm like

718
00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:05,440
i think there's ufo outside she was like

719
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:07,039
what and so

720
00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:09,600
i look out the window and it's moved

721
00:28:12,310 --> 00:28:10,480
from

722
00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:12,320
it's hard to explain

723
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:14,640
let's move from here to over here

724
00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:17,600
okay now what is the size of the window

725
00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:19,440
we're looking at just to get your aspect

726
00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:21,120
are you looking straight out are you

727
00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:22,480
looking up

728
00:28:26,789 --> 00:28:24,960
is this a picture like a sliding glass

729
00:28:32,549 --> 00:28:26,799
door

730
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:35,830
and that picture i sent you of like the

731
00:28:39,029 --> 00:28:36,880
180

732
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:39,039
of the backyard that yes

733
00:28:43,269 --> 00:28:41,120
where the trees meet the sky

734
00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:43,279
that horizon is roughly

735
00:28:47,190 --> 00:28:44,799
eye level

736
00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:47,200
okay and it's right above the horizon

737
00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:50,320
not too high up above it

738
00:28:55,190 --> 00:28:53,120
and by the time i come upstairs to look

739
00:28:57,750 --> 00:28:55,200
out the window it had moved from there

740
00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:57,760
to here so it had gone

741
00:29:00,630 --> 00:28:59,520
over

742
00:29:02,230 --> 00:29:00,640
and

743
00:29:03,669 --> 00:29:02,240
in my mind i'm thinking okay you've been

744
00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:03,679
reading about this apparently they're

745
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:07,440
telepathic let's test that out

746
00:29:10,389 --> 00:29:08,720
and i say

747
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:10,399
if you can hear me

748
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:12,640
fly down or i can't remember if i said

749
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:15,200
fly down or fly up fly over

750
00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:16,880
i think this is in your mind or out and

751
00:29:20,070 --> 00:29:18,559
your mind are out loud this is in my

752
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:20,080
mind you know because i don't want to

753
00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:21,360
sit there and i don't want to think i'm

754
00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:27,029
uh you know fly up

755
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:28,159
and

756
00:29:32,149 --> 00:29:29,840
there's a tree that's in my line of

757
00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:32,159
vision so there's branches

758
00:29:37,669 --> 00:29:34,799
and i just see this thing go like

759
00:29:38,830 --> 00:29:37,679
up past the branches

760
00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:38,840
and i'm like

761
00:29:43,750 --> 00:29:41,360
oh and then i'm like if you can hear me

762
00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:43,760
fly over you know and again

763
00:29:46,549 --> 00:29:45,440
in relation to the branches it's going

764
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:46,559
like

765
00:29:51,110 --> 00:29:48,880
and it'll kind of move over and i just

766
00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:51,120
freak out and i just shut the blinds and

767
00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:52,640
then it's like what are you looking at

768
00:29:57,269 --> 00:29:54,080
and she comes over and she looks out the

769
00:29:59,269 --> 00:29:57,279
window and i s and i just see this like

770
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:59,279
her muscles in the back of her neck just

771
00:30:03,029 --> 00:30:01,039
go like

772
00:30:04,149 --> 00:30:03,039
you know like chills kind of thing and

773
00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:04,159
she was like

774
00:30:08,070 --> 00:30:06,240
i don't see anything and if you knew my

775
00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:08,080
wife you you would know that she's like

776
00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:10,480
the queen of just like there's work to

777
00:30:16,230 --> 00:30:13,200
be done and i'm not dealing with this

778
00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:16,240
right block it out hey david can can you

779
00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:19,200
give us an approximate size of this

780
00:30:23,269 --> 00:30:21,440
object compared to

781
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:23,279
uh either just

782
00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:24,960
what you think or relative to the other

783
00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:27,200
one you saw the first one

784
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:28,640
big

785
00:30:34,470 --> 00:30:33,360
i would assume

786
00:30:37,510 --> 00:30:34,480
like i

787
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:37,520
again i'm not an aviator i'm not an

788
00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:41,600
aeronautics expert so i'm not a good

789
00:30:47,590 --> 00:30:44,480
judge of distance and height

790
00:30:49,510 --> 00:30:47,600
and size it was far away

791
00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:49,520
and that's kind of a key part of the

792
00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:50,960
story

793
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:51,919
okay

794
00:30:56,070 --> 00:30:54,320
it is it's it's far away i don't know

795
00:30:59,190 --> 00:30:56,080
it's not in your yard

796
00:31:03,750 --> 00:31:01,029
again he'll be back i know you know what

797
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:03,760
though i'll tell you what i'm willing to

798
00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:06,640
upgrade his internet service

799
00:31:09,830 --> 00:31:07,600
um

800
00:31:11,509 --> 00:31:09,840
you know just next month at least when

801
00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:11,519
you're out of the lake it uh it happened

802
00:31:14,870 --> 00:31:13,120
sometimes yeah hey this happened you

803
00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:14,880
know what i would like to have lake

804
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:16,960
house problems right exactly

805
00:31:21,830 --> 00:31:18,720
i would like to have a lake house i

806
00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:21,840
would like to have 100 uh acres of

807
00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:24,799
wooded land in alabama and

808
00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:25,679
i'm

809
00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:28,240
sorry nathan bring me back no no bring

810
00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:29,279
me

811
00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:30,880
it's all good all right

812
00:31:34,149 --> 00:31:32,399
welcome back no it's fine man don't

813
00:31:36,149 --> 00:31:34,159
worry about it okay

814
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:36,159
i was dreaming about lake property it's

815
00:31:40,789 --> 00:31:39,120
okay okay all right we're back location

816
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:40,799
with bad wi-fi

817
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:42,000
i'm back

818
00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:46,480
exactly is it area 51

819
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,350
so

820
00:31:59,830 --> 00:31:55,990
as far as how big it was i'm guessing

821
00:32:02,149 --> 00:31:59,840
it's it's sizeable like not like

822
00:32:05,190 --> 00:32:02,159
enormous i don't mean like mothership

823
00:32:07,830 --> 00:32:05,200
but like it's not one of these

824
00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:07,840
smaller kind of things that that some

825
00:32:11,909 --> 00:32:10,320
people see like you know

826
00:32:13,509 --> 00:32:11,919
that's you know roughly the size a

827
00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:13,519
little bit bigger than a sedan but just

828
00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:17,679
like a disc okay it was bigger than that

829
00:32:21,269 --> 00:32:18,880
um

830
00:32:23,669 --> 00:32:21,279
but not like you know mothership kind of

831
00:32:24,549 --> 00:32:23,679
thing but just a light just like a white

832
00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:24,559
light

833
00:32:28,630 --> 00:32:27,120
you know uh i just want to say just

834
00:32:29,669 --> 00:32:28,640
because i haven't heard too many of

835
00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:29,679
these but

836
00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:31,760
anjali's confidant

837
00:32:35,909 --> 00:32:34,240
nick larkin said he and his mother in

838
00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:35,919
the backyard saw one the size of a

839
00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:38,559
football so imagine you know something

840
00:32:43,269 --> 00:32:40,559
comes in your yard it's the size of a

841
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:43,279
football and flies away i mean that's

842
00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:47,039
bizarre right bizarre i can imagine

843
00:32:53,029 --> 00:32:49,760
yeah so nick larkin what's up brother

844
00:32:55,909 --> 00:32:53,039
anjali say hello to david john lanier

845
00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:55,919
all right let's go go ahead brother um

846
00:32:58,549 --> 00:32:57,760
okay and so

847
00:33:21,669 --> 00:32:58,559
i

848
00:33:23,830 --> 00:33:21,679
request

849
00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:23,840
right yeah and all this stuff i'm

850
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:26,480
researching is suddenly like uh like is

851
00:33:31,590 --> 00:33:28,799
this true is this real

852
00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:31,600
i go take a hot shower until it runs

853
00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:33,279
cold

854
00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:35,600
and then i come into the bedroom and

855
00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:39,760
watch uh scrubs which is an old tv show

856
00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:41,039
yeah it's a good one

857
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:43,279
it describes my sports career actually

858
00:33:48,149 --> 00:33:45,600
but anyway go ahead

859
00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:48,159
i just needed i needed to laugh and i

860
00:33:51,750 --> 00:33:50,399
needed to think about something else and

861
00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:51,760
sadly

862
00:33:54,549 --> 00:33:53,440
began

863
00:33:56,710 --> 00:33:54,559
about

864
00:34:01,269 --> 00:33:56,720
i don't know how long of me having to

865
00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:04,149
okay and i'm not preparing to admit that

866
00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:06,480
because i just telepathically

867
00:34:11,669 --> 00:34:08,720
communicated with

868
00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:11,679
a light in the sky that responded to

869
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:12,960
my request

870
00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:14,560
i'm freaked you out

871
00:34:19,349 --> 00:34:16,399
i'm a little disturbed

872
00:34:20,790 --> 00:34:19,359
so this is the point where the story

873
00:34:23,909 --> 00:34:20,800
starts getting

874
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:25,190
blurred

875
00:34:31,829 --> 00:34:29,040
because so much happened

876
00:34:35,829 --> 00:34:31,839
and i want to make the point that

877
00:34:39,349 --> 00:34:35,839
they approached me in phases

878
00:34:43,270 --> 00:34:39,359
and the first phase was far away

879
00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:43,280
it was lights in the upper atmosphere

880
00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:45,359
uh you know like i said way off i don't

881
00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:48,639
know how far but way off in the horizon

882
00:34:52,710 --> 00:34:50,560
small i mean i don't think they were

883
00:34:53,829 --> 00:34:52,720
small but but away

884
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:53,839
okay and

885
00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:55,440
i saw

886
00:34:57,910 --> 00:34:56,560
i had

887
00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:57,920
moments like that

888
00:35:02,710 --> 00:35:00,480
like that little story i just told you

889
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:02,720
so many times that i don't remember all

890
00:35:09,750 --> 00:35:06,240
of it i do have video footage i set up a

891
00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:09,760
tripod and i put my little this was 2009

892
00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:12,960
i put my little 2007 8 millimeter camera

893
00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:14,640
on a tripod because this was happening

894
00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:16,640
so frequently that i was like i can film

895
00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:18,720
this i can prove to people this is

896
00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:20,160
happening because i feel like i'm going

897
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:22,160
crazy

898
00:35:25,589 --> 00:35:24,000
and you know i went back and i looked at

899
00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:25,599
some of the footage

900
00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:30,790
as time went on i did kind of go like

901
00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:33,280
okay that's probably a scintillating

902
00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:36,240
star that might be a helicopter that

903
00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:39,119
might be a plane i started that could be

904
00:35:43,270 --> 00:35:40,720
a space station that might be a

905
00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:43,280
satellite i started learning about

906
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:45,280
what's in the area

907
00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:47,520
sure also and i'll go ahead you know

908
00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:49,280
full disclosure

909
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:52,720
i live 40 minutes south of the redstone

910
00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:55,520
arsenal in huntsville which is a major

911
00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:58,640
jet propulsion laboratory for nasa and

912
00:36:03,030 --> 00:36:00,720
national defense development for the

913
00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:03,040
army so there's every chance you know

914
00:36:07,990 --> 00:36:06,160
lou elizondo was on a podcast recently

915
00:36:09,589 --> 00:36:08,000
saying there's ai being developed that's

916
00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:09,599
going to be able to tell and they've

917
00:36:13,109 --> 00:36:11,280
already run something through it turns

918
00:36:19,030 --> 00:36:13,119
out it was an army thing

919
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:21,670
it got closer and it got weirder

920
00:36:27,270 --> 00:36:24,720
and i don't suspect military at that

921
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:27,280
point but initially it's far away and

922
00:36:31,750 --> 00:36:29,280
some of the video footage i don't even

923
00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:31,760
remember taking

924
00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:32,560
um

925
00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:35,119
as far as putting that out i don't want

926
00:36:42,150 --> 00:36:39,349
hammered

927
00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:42,160
you know i'm a pretty sensitive person

928
00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:43,839
and i don't want to get hammered by

929
00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:45,680
people that don't believe me

930
00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:47,599
or that you know are going to mock me

931
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:50,560
and and belittle me and try to ruin

932
00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:52,720
my story i'm kind of like believe me or

933
00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:54,720
not i might put it out

934
00:36:59,589 --> 00:36:57,520
but there's a couple of clips that are

935
00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:59,599
pretty interesting one of which was

936
00:37:03,190 --> 00:37:00,960
during the day

937
00:37:05,829 --> 00:37:03,200
and i can tell you i i do remember one

938
00:37:08,470 --> 00:37:05,839
of the daytime sightings i was

939
00:37:13,270 --> 00:37:08,480
i was googling the occupation in

940
00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:15,750
so so we lost him again

941
00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:19,760
um so guys uh we are calling all beings

942
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:22,480
i'm your host dj san marco this is my

943
00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:25,440
co-host nathan at a wave stole

944
00:37:29,109 --> 00:37:27,200
and our guest

945
00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:29,119
sorry nathan i was

946
00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:31,040
and i i didn't mean to somebody and our

947
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:33,680
our guest is uh david john lanier trying

948
00:37:38,950 --> 00:37:36,400
to tell his story it's very difficult to

949
00:37:41,270 --> 00:37:38,960
tell these stories because uh

950
00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:41,280
uh frankly probably most of the people

951
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:43,440
that he tells don't believe him

952
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:46,000
um and that's why i didn't tell my story

953
00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:48,800
for 30 some odd years i know it's real i

954
00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:50,720
don't need mick west or somebody to tell

955
00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:51,440
me

956
00:37:57,670 --> 00:37:56,240
above the tree line

957
00:37:59,829 --> 00:37:57,680
in uh

958
00:38:02,069 --> 00:37:59,839
uh sunday night in peak skill that lit

959
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:02,079
up the entire sky i mean it just blew my

960
00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:04,640
mind yeah different colors like yeah

961
00:38:08,390 --> 00:38:06,480
yeah totally it looks like he's back so

962
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:08,400
we'll get it back okay let's get him in

963
00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:09,920
sorry all right welcome back

964
00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:12,480
and that is our aforementioned special

965
00:38:15,990 --> 00:38:13,440
guest

966
00:38:17,109 --> 00:38:16,000
david john lanier we are calling all

967
00:38:19,589 --> 00:38:17,119
beings

968
00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:19,599
uh we love you ufo twitter and uh

969
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:21,760
david's here to share his story please

970
00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:24,640
continue sir and by the way sir

971
00:38:28,710 --> 00:38:27,359
uh as far as sharing your your video you

972
00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:28,720
don't have to share

973
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:31,920
uh with anybody you don't have to uh get

974
00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:33,760
affirmation on it and one of the reasons

975
00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:35,760
i say that is

976
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:38,640
a lot of times it just doesn't show up

977
00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:40,960
on film the way it shows up when your

978
00:38:44,069 --> 00:38:42,320
eye sees it

979
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:44,079
you see it you know what you're looking

980
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:45,119
at

981
00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:48,079
um and when it is you kind of know it is

982
00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:50,160
and it's not necessarily going to show

983
00:38:53,990 --> 00:38:52,880
up on film it wasn't meant to be filmed

984
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:54,000
it's not

985
00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:57,359
what i mean

986
00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:00,400
so go for it brother um

987
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:03,359
one of the videos one one of the scenes

988
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:05,680
i caught was during the daytime i had

989
00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:08,720
multiple daytime sightings and one of

990
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:10,480
which i was

991
00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:11,680
keeping up with the news about the

992
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:13,760
occupation in afghanistan and i was

993
00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:19,349
civilian casualties and just the

994
00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:22,160
horrible stuff and and just

995
00:39:25,349 --> 00:39:23,440
and i don't know why i was looking at

996
00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:25,359
that oh i do know why

997
00:39:28,790 --> 00:39:27,200
it has something to do with an art with

998
00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:28,800
my art project and i was putting

999
00:39:32,790 --> 00:39:30,720
together a slideshow

1000
00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:32,800
for people and there was a lot of uh

1001
00:39:35,829 --> 00:39:34,240
you know innocent civilian war

1002
00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:35,839
casualties that were part of the

1003
00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:37,520
slideshow maybe they had something to do

1004
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:39,040
with it i don't know

1005
00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:41,040
but i started crying

1006
00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:42,560
because i'm filthy

1007
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:44,720
and so i went outside

1008
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:47,280
and there was like a star in the sky

1009
00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:49,680
like two three in the afternoon there's

1010
00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:51,839
a star in this guy i'm like oh my god

1011
00:39:55,510 --> 00:39:53,280
it's one of those things run back inside

1012
00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:55,520
get a camera run back out it's gone

1013
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:57,680
um and that kind of thing happened

1014
00:40:01,589 --> 00:39:59,359
multiple times like something that

1015
00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:01,599
looked like a coke can or something just

1016
00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:03,920
sideways like this

1017
00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:05,599
it's not a satellite satellites aren't

1018
00:40:09,109 --> 00:40:07,280
that low in the sky

1019
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:09,119
right now

1020
00:40:12,630 --> 00:40:10,640
and there were a couple of daytime

1021
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:12,640
sightings like that most of them were at

1022
00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:14,160
night time but again

1023
00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:18,240
during this phase of it it it's far away

1024
00:40:21,190 --> 00:40:20,079
um

1025
00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:21,200
so

1026
00:40:26,470 --> 00:40:22,720
again

1027
00:40:28,390 --> 00:40:26,480
when i go back and look at these videos

1028
00:40:30,309 --> 00:40:28,400
i don't even remember taking

1029
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:30,319
any of them half of them

1030
00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:31,280
um

1031
00:40:36,309 --> 00:40:33,440
and so this this whole part of the story

1032
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:36,319
just gets confusing i i don't

1033
00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:39,760
and it was 10 years ago you know sure

1034
00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:46,390
they got progressively closer

1035
00:40:53,109 --> 00:40:51,270
the first one i remember being really

1036
00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:53,119
close

1037
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:54,800
i just saw

1038
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:57,359
you know coming in at

1039
00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:58,960
um

1040
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:00,720
my house sits at a thousand feet above

1041
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:03,119
sea level

1042
00:41:07,309 --> 00:41:04,720
it's probably

1043
00:41:09,829 --> 00:41:07,319
this thing's probably

1044
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:09,839
150 feet in the air

1045
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:11,040
and it says

1046
00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:14,720
this red light in an orange light like

1047
00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:17,680
way far apart coming right at me

1048
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:18,960
over the field i don't have any

1049
00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:25,750
or its approach i just remember just the

1050
00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:27,200
red light and orange light and they're

1051
00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:29,280
far apart i was like that is a big ass

1052
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:30,160
plane

1053
00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:32,480
not making any sound on the other side

1054
00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:34,960
of those trees

1055
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:37,119
and then the orange light

1056
00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:40,000
it turns it like pivots and the red

1057
00:41:45,990 --> 00:41:42,720
light kind of stays in one position and

1058
00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:46,000
the orange light goes like this

1059
00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:47,440
and then it flies

1060
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:50,319
directly over me

1061
00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:52,720
and it's and then it turns a white light

1062
00:41:57,910 --> 00:41:53,520
on

1063
00:42:00,230 --> 00:41:57,920
triangle

1064
00:42:02,710 --> 00:42:00,240
it's just this big

1065
00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:02,720
black triangle i mean easily the size of

1066
00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:05,119
my house if not bigger

1067
00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:07,359
and it has this big

1068
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:10,400
protruding like bowl off the bottom of

1069
00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:11,280
it

1070
00:42:16,309 --> 00:42:14,960
i say bowl because that's the shape

1071
00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:16,319
so you were kind of you were kind of at

1072
00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:17,760
an off angle to it then you weren't

1073
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,720
directly underneath it you could tell

1074
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:22,560
well

1075
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:28,870
it had like you could kind of it was

1076
00:42:32,069 --> 00:42:31,040
like it was nighttime but the moon was

1077
00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:32,079
bright

1078
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:33,760
and you could kind of see like this kind

1079
00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:38,640
of silvery gray black metallic sheen to

1080
00:42:45,349 --> 00:42:40,000
it

1081
00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:45,359
that was off the bottom and had like a

1082
00:42:51,109 --> 00:42:48,560
series of holes just black holes

1083
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:51,119
i don't know it was just a square grid

1084
00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:53,520
of black holes

1085
00:42:56,230 --> 00:42:55,040
on the bottom of this bowl and then

1086
00:42:59,670 --> 00:42:56,240
suddenly

1087
00:43:02,390 --> 00:42:59,680
the grids light up

1088
00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:02,400
and it just makes this pattern

1089
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:04,720
that's like braille it looks like

1090
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:06,400
braille

1091
00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:07,520
and then they go

1092
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:09,040
and all the lights go off and then it

1093
00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:13,030
and it makes another pattern that's

1094
00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:15,839
different still looks like braille

1095
00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:17,760
all the lights go off it does this like

1096
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:19,839
three or four times

1097
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:21,520
so you're looking at the bottom of it

1098
00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:23,760
now it's almost like hovering above your

1099
00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:24,960
property

1100
00:43:28,309 --> 00:43:26,480
yeah it's hovering above

1101
00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:28,319
me i'm and you're right i love you right

1102
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:29,440
above you

1103
00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:31,680
yeah it is a little offset

1104
00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:33,760
like it's not directly by me it's a

1105
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:34,560
little

1106
00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:36,640
over

1107
00:43:40,470 --> 00:43:37,680
but

1108
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:40,480
i just think like that thing

1109
00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:44,240
whatever it is is flashing lights at me

1110
00:43:50,230 --> 00:43:49,270
it's it's

1111
00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:50,240
it's

1112
00:43:53,349 --> 00:43:51,680
waving at me

1113
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:53,359
right some type of communication is

1114
00:43:57,270 --> 00:43:54,560
trying to yeah

1115
00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:57,280
is your wife like is she freaking out

1116
00:44:00,309 --> 00:43:58,160
like

1117
00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:00,319
uh are you freaking out

1118
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:02,800
oh no no she was doing laundry she's not

1119
00:44:05,589 --> 00:44:03,920
awake

1120
00:44:07,750 --> 00:44:05,599
this is great

1121
00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:07,760
hey honey get back in here your

1122
00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:10,160
underwear is almost done oh man

1123
00:44:15,910 --> 00:44:13,119
again yep all right um she might be on

1124
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:15,920
playstation 3 right now that might be

1125
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:17,280
or on twitch

1126
00:44:21,030 --> 00:44:18,720
so okay

1127
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:21,040
um yeah this is really interesting now

1128
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:23,520
imagine you're having a contact nathan

1129
00:44:28,470 --> 00:44:26,400
where you're like right under craft

1130
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:28,480
yeah no it's hard to hard to imagine

1131
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:30,960
that for sure a lot more visceral than

1132
00:44:40,710 --> 00:44:32,880
what hey uh if your wife's on

1133
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:42,069
it's all good

1134
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:44,160
i'm assuming that due to the data

1135
00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:46,480
transfer i've probably got like five ten

1136
00:44:50,710 --> 00:44:48,960
minute windows before i fart out no it's

1137
00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:50,720
all good

1138
00:44:53,829 --> 00:44:52,400
we're happy i mean like you've already

1139
00:44:56,790 --> 00:44:53,839
i'm sorry go ahead nathan because well

1140
00:44:58,230 --> 00:44:56,800
yeah so okay so just a quick recap so

1141
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:58,240
the uh

1142
00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:00,480
experiences that contact the sightings

1143
00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:03,040
they've been increasing over time

1144
00:45:07,829 --> 00:45:05,680
uh since 2007 when they when you kind of

1145
00:45:10,630 --> 00:45:07,839
had that another experience with them

1146
00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:10,640
and now you've got a large black

1147
00:45:15,589 --> 00:45:12,800
triangle in the night sky

1148
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:15,599
there's a moon out in the sky as well

1149
00:45:21,190 --> 00:45:19,200
but this triangle has a rounded

1150
00:45:23,030 --> 00:45:21,200
sort of glowing white

1151
00:45:24,550 --> 00:45:23,040
bowl in the center of it and at the

1152
00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:24,560
bottom of that

1153
00:45:27,670 --> 00:45:25,839
bowl

1154
00:45:29,829 --> 00:45:27,680
sort of facing the ground is a you

1155
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:29,839
described it as kind of a square

1156
00:45:36,550 --> 00:45:34,079
grid like pattern of of dots that are

1157
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:36,560
uh animated in a way that almost like a

1158
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:37,920
like a uh

1159
00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:40,319
a pixel screen that can kind of pop in

1160
00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:42,560
and out of those little black pixels can

1161
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:44,480
pop in and out and change configurations

1162
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:46,560
that is that an accurate recap

1163
00:45:52,309 --> 00:45:49,920
uh pretty much um the the bowl itself

1164
00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:52,319
off the bottom was black and the bowl

1165
00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:53,280
was black

1166
00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:55,680
but it was almost like a recessed

1167
00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:56,960
lighting

1168
00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:59,440
that was in those little black

1169
00:46:01,990 --> 00:46:00,480
slots

1170
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:02,000
yeah within the black holes there were

1171
00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:03,920
lights and the lights were coming on in

1172
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:05,040
a pattern

1173
00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:08,880
gotcha okay thank you flying over me and

1174
00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:10,720
i you know of course

1175
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:13,520
i'm just like i'm freaking out

1176
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:16,880
and i go inside

1177
00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:19,760
and i just hear static in my ear just

1178
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:22,160
in my head just like

1179
00:46:25,109 --> 00:46:23,040
like

1180
00:46:27,990 --> 00:46:25,119
ringing in my ears and i sit down at the

1181
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:28,000
bottom step of the basement and my

1182
00:46:33,349 --> 00:46:30,000
wife's doing laundry and she's like

1183
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:33,359
what's wrong and i'm like i just saw

1184
00:46:37,750 --> 00:46:36,000
a ufo again and she was like

1185
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:37,760
you know her mind she's like you need to

1186
00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:39,359
stop with that

1187
00:46:43,829 --> 00:46:41,920
you know it's bothering me clearly i was

1188
00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:43,839
like i can't help it

1189
00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:45,680
i was like i didn't ask for this she's

1190
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:49,510
right

1191
00:46:54,470 --> 00:46:52,160
hell yeah i'm asking for it

1192
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:54,480
so then i hear in my head

1193
00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:56,560
this is the first time i hear a voice

1194
00:47:02,390 --> 00:47:00,470
and i know this sounds like

1195
00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:02,400
schizophrenic

1196
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:04,640
but this you know

1197
00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:06,160
i haven't had anything like that happen

1198
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:14,950
and it's like this almost like

1199
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:18,069
the vibe of of what they're saying is

1200
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:19,119
just like

1201
00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:20,800
calm down

1202
00:47:26,950 --> 00:47:24,640
like like almost like damn dude like

1203
00:47:29,270 --> 00:47:26,960
everything's fine we're not gonna hurt

1204
00:47:31,829 --> 00:47:29,280
you almost like

1205
00:47:33,109 --> 00:47:31,839
like when a child gets scared of thunder

1206
00:47:35,109 --> 00:47:33,119
yeah and

1207
00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:35,119
and you're like it's okay jesus okay

1208
00:47:39,510 --> 00:47:38,319
okay you know it was like that kind of

1209
00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:39,520
tone

1210
00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:40,880
and i'm like

1211
00:47:44,230 --> 00:47:43,040
get out of my head i'm going nuts and i

1212
00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:44,240
go

1213
00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:46,880
into my little basement office and all

1214
00:47:50,950 --> 00:47:49,440
my studio equipment is has gone into

1215
00:47:52,790 --> 00:47:50,960
disco mode

1216
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:52,800
okay which means all the lights are

1217
00:47:57,589 --> 00:47:54,640
flashing and the levers are moving and

1218
00:47:59,030 --> 00:47:57,599
uh my computer's farted out and my

1219
00:48:01,270 --> 00:47:59,040
you know other electronic equipment's

1220
00:48:02,150 --> 00:48:01,280
farted out is that coincidence

1221
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:02,160
maybe

1222
00:48:04,829 --> 00:48:03,760
probably not

1223
00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:04,839
and so

1224
00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:06,400
emily

1225
00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:08,079
that was

1226
00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:10,720
like the first kind of like close

1227
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:13,119
because again it's it's going in phases

1228
00:48:18,790 --> 00:48:15,760
it's it's way out here

1229
00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:18,800
it's getting closer and now it's it's

1230
00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:20,640
like on me

1231
00:48:25,750 --> 00:48:22,640
yeah and so this

1232
00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:25,760
starts like the second phase of crafts

1233
00:48:32,829 --> 00:48:28,720
being in close proximity and hearing

1234
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:34,470
and

1235
00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:36,079
i mean

1236
00:48:39,190 --> 00:48:37,839
one time i heard i was sitting in the

1237
00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:39,200
living room i heard a voice it's like

1238
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:40,640
come outside

1239
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:43,040
and this was like the female voice some

1240
00:48:46,870 --> 00:48:45,440
of it was like a group talking it

1241
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:46,880
sounded like

1242
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:49,680
multiple people talking at once

1243
00:48:54,790 --> 00:48:52,319
and then one was like a female voice

1244
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,800
like if you talked into an empty tin

1245
00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:56,400
bucket

1246
00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:57,760
the way it kind of echoes back in your

1247
00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:00,480
ears it has like that ping to it

1248
00:49:05,030 --> 00:49:02,480
yeah you know i like that

1249
00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:05,040
but like a female voice

1250
00:49:08,950 --> 00:49:07,680
but in my head

1251
00:49:11,109 --> 00:49:08,960
and

1252
00:49:12,870 --> 00:49:11,119
oddly enough i have met somebody on ufo

1253
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:12,880
twitter two people

1254
00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:14,400
that have heard the same thing and then

1255
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:15,920
i watched that documentary the other

1256
00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:18,400
night on netflix the unclassified thing

1257
00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:21,440
and i didn't even realize the past gula

1258
00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:24,480
guy in mississippi

1259
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:26,240
calvin parker

1260
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:27,440
no

1261
00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:29,520
and so

1262
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:32,400
i i don't realize it at the time

1263
00:49:35,109 --> 00:49:33,680
but i hear this voice they come outside

1264
00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:35,119
i go outside and there's like you know

1265
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,109
and

1266
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:45,990
you know i i mean

1267
00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:48,480
again i'm outside in my backyard i could

1268
00:49:52,630 --> 00:49:50,880
just go on and on

1269
00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:52,640
and i look off to the left you know i

1270
00:49:56,549 --> 00:49:55,119
showed you the woodlands out there and

1271
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:56,559
off the horizon

1272
00:50:03,829 --> 00:50:01,280
white lights and a red light

1273
00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:03,839
slowly right there's a radio tower on a

1274
00:50:07,750 --> 00:50:04,800
hill

1275
00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:07,760
and it's slowly rising like this

1276
00:50:12,790 --> 00:50:09,839
you know next to the radio tower as if

1277
00:50:15,670 --> 00:50:12,800
to say do you see me moving up

1278
00:50:17,670 --> 00:50:15,680
and not at you

1279
00:50:19,829 --> 00:50:17,680
but i'm going like no way that's a plane

1280
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:19,839
coming and just because of the

1281
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:21,280
whatever

1282
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:23,359
you know it looks like it's rising and

1283
00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:25,200
then the two white lights go off the red

1284
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:27,599
light goes off and then across the front

1285
00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:34,390
well these lights like purple and green

1286
00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:36,800
and white and i think orange was in

1287
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:38,319
there definitely purple and green and

1288
00:50:44,549 --> 00:50:39,200
white

1289
00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:45,910
and then they all went off and the two

1290
00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:47,440
white lights came back on the red light

1291
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:48,640
came back on

1292
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:51,359
and now it's not moving up anymore and

1293
00:50:55,750 --> 00:50:53,520
this is miles away

1294
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:55,760
it's not moving up anymore it's moving

1295
00:50:59,829 --> 00:50:57,119
at me

1296
00:51:03,349 --> 00:50:59,839
and then again the two white lights go

1297
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:04,950
the s

1298
00:51:09,030 --> 00:51:07,040
you know the roll lights go off and then

1299
00:51:10,390 --> 00:51:09,040
they the two white lights come off so do

1300
00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:10,400
you see what i'm saying it's kind of

1301
00:51:13,349 --> 00:51:12,240
sequencing between whatever's across the

1302
00:51:14,710 --> 00:51:13,359
wingspan

1303
00:51:17,349 --> 00:51:14,720
and these two white lights in the red

1304
00:51:19,589 --> 00:51:17,359
light underneath and then i go like oh

1305
00:51:21,910 --> 00:51:19,599
god that's one of those things

1306
00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:21,920
and so i turn around to walk back to my

1307
00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:24,240
basement door and i've counted the steps

1308
00:51:27,190 --> 00:51:26,160
it's 30 steps

1309
00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:27,200
and

1310
00:51:31,829 --> 00:51:30,880
you know 30 seconds or less walking

1311
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:31,839
quickly

1312
00:51:35,910 --> 00:51:33,440
back to my basement door i turn around

1313
00:51:37,030 --> 00:51:35,920
and this thing is on me it has gone

1314
00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:37,040
miles

1315
00:51:40,390 --> 00:51:37,760
in

1316
00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:40,400
less than 30 seconds or less

1317
00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:41,760
yeah wow

1318
00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:48,069
here's me

1319
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:52,000
and this thing is like here

1320
00:51:57,829 --> 00:51:54,880
and i can see it's a boomerang

1321
00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:57,839
okay oh wow okay

1322
00:52:01,270 --> 00:52:00,160
but it's angled okay if my hand was the

1323
00:52:03,829 --> 00:52:01,280
boomerang

1324
00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:03,839
it's angled like this

1325
00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:05,920
okay where the front of it is

1326
00:52:10,710 --> 00:52:08,640
facing me and i can see the points of

1327
00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:10,720
the top of the wing form

1328
00:52:14,950 --> 00:52:12,640
pointing at an angle up in the sky and

1329
00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:14,960
i'm like that's not flying that's

1330
00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:17,680
hanging because there's no aerodynamics

1331
00:52:21,910 --> 00:52:19,359
happening at all

1332
00:52:23,589 --> 00:52:21,920
and that is the boomerang

1333
00:52:25,109 --> 00:52:23,599
and then

1334
00:52:27,910 --> 00:52:25,119
and it's right above a tree and the

1335
00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:27,920
average tree is about 100 feet tall

1336
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:29,760
and

1337
00:52:35,589 --> 00:52:32,640
so it's probably like 110 120

1338
00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:35,599
you know pretty close and again with the

1339
00:52:40,549 --> 00:52:37,680
lights across the front of it

1340
00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:40,559
but this time it's close and i'm like

1341
00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:42,240
and not unlike that black triangle i'm

1342
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:45,760
like this thing is going like hey

1343
00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:49,440
you know like it's it sees me seeing it

1344
00:52:55,270 --> 00:52:53,640
and so

1345
00:52:57,910 --> 00:52:55,280
[Music]

1346
00:53:00,549 --> 00:52:57,920
i don't remember

1347
00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:00,559
it moving from angled

1348
00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:03,680
and facing me to right above me but when

1349
00:53:08,549 --> 00:53:06,400
it's right above me it's a lot closer

1350
00:53:11,270 --> 00:53:08,559
like it's a low tree top and i'm

1351
00:53:13,270 --> 00:53:11,280
guessing 50 60 and the two white lights

1352
00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:13,280
on the bottom and the red light

1353
00:53:16,790 --> 00:53:15,520
cast this like pink glow on the bottom i

1354
00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:16,800
can see it clearly this day it looks

1355
00:53:21,109 --> 00:53:18,640
like a croissant

1356
00:53:22,710 --> 00:53:21,119
or a boomerang or a banana i'm just

1357
00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:22,720
going like

1358
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:25,119
i and it has like it looks like ice

1359
00:53:28,790 --> 00:53:26,480
cream cones

1360
00:53:31,990 --> 00:53:28,800
with a scoop of ice cream almost like

1361
00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:32,000
bird breasts on on the bottom of it

1362
00:53:37,510 --> 00:53:34,559
okay yep yep it's making like a low like

1363
00:53:39,510 --> 00:53:37,520
a luxury car that's in idle

1364
00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:39,520
like something's running but it's not

1365
00:53:44,230 --> 00:53:40,559
roaring

1366
00:53:46,230 --> 00:53:44,240
kind of a hum hum to it and

1367
00:53:48,069 --> 00:53:46,240
it passes over and this was one of the

1368
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:48,079
few and i don't know if this was before

1369
00:53:51,670 --> 00:53:50,720
or after all the other

1370
00:53:54,870 --> 00:53:51,680
stuff

1371
00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:54,880
but like i didn't i wasn't scared

1372
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:57,119
this one didn't freak me out and it

1373
00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:59,119
wasn't big it was you know it would have

1374
00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:00,960
been big enough for two

1375
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:04,319
adults to sit in maybe

1376
00:54:09,829 --> 00:54:07,200
uh and it flies over and i'm watching it

1377
00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:09,839
fly over and the two white lights on the

1378
00:54:13,270 --> 00:54:11,760
bottom side of the wing which by the way

1379
00:54:15,990 --> 00:54:13,280
i could see when it flies over and they

1380
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:16,000
were like it was just so smooth like it

1381
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:18,240
didn't look like it was

1382
00:54:23,270 --> 00:54:20,640
nothing was bolted there were no

1383
00:54:25,270 --> 00:54:23,280
flaps there was no soldering it just

1384
00:54:27,990 --> 00:54:25,280
looks like it was just

1385
00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:28,000
neatly tucked into it the two white

1386
00:54:32,549 --> 00:54:29,680
lights

1387
00:54:34,150 --> 00:54:32,559
goes off

1388
00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:34,160
and then the red light

1389
00:54:38,309 --> 00:54:36,559
drops just like those

1390
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:38,319
but it maintains pace with it's probably

1391
00:54:41,349 --> 00:54:40,079
going about this fast

1392
00:54:43,430 --> 00:54:41,359
and the red light just drops and

1393
00:54:45,109 --> 00:54:43,440
maintains pace and it's about 10 15 feet

1394
00:54:46,309 --> 00:54:45,119
below it i'm like dude that's one of

1395
00:54:47,829 --> 00:54:46,319
those orbs

1396
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:47,839
that's not a light that's attached to

1397
00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:51,119
the craft that's one of those orbs

1398
00:54:56,549 --> 00:54:54,880
and and it's red and then the back oh

1399
00:54:58,870 --> 00:54:56,559
god this hurts my head

1400
00:55:00,390 --> 00:54:58,880
the back of the craft where the tips of

1401
00:55:02,630 --> 00:55:00,400
the wings would have been

1402
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:02,640
this these red lights come on the back

1403
00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:04,559
of it and they just

1404
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:07,280
multiply they layer and the craft looks

1405
00:55:10,230 --> 00:55:08,960
to get thicker

1406
00:55:12,710 --> 00:55:10,240
like it it

1407
00:55:14,630 --> 00:55:12,720
its depth grew

1408
00:55:16,309 --> 00:55:14,640
these these series of white light red

1409
00:55:17,430 --> 00:55:16,319
lights came off on the back of it just

1410
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:17,440
like

1411
00:55:23,670 --> 00:55:20,400
and i'm i am awake i am sober i'm not on

1412
00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:23,680
drugs i'm not drunk it was easter sunday

1413
00:55:27,670 --> 00:55:26,480
my kids were like easter eggs up the

1414
00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:27,680
hill

1415
00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:29,839
you know uh several acres away at the

1416
00:55:34,789 --> 00:55:32,160
neighbor's house wow this thing flies

1417
00:55:37,349 --> 00:55:34,799
over where they are a little white light

1418
00:55:39,349 --> 00:55:37,359
turns on on top of it the red light

1419
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:39,359
disappears the white lights come back on

1420
00:55:43,829 --> 00:55:42,000
i was like it's pretending to be a plane

1421
00:55:48,470 --> 00:55:43,839
and then it kind of angles and just

1422
00:55:52,230 --> 00:55:48,480
flies off over the horizon of the street

1423
00:55:55,349 --> 00:55:53,430
so if

1424
00:55:57,829 --> 00:55:55,359
if i understand now david your wife

1425
00:56:00,150 --> 00:55:57,839
doesn't want you to interact

1426
00:56:03,670 --> 00:56:00,160
with these

1427
00:56:08,309 --> 00:56:03,680
and what draws you to the interaction

1428
00:56:12,390 --> 00:56:08,319
i don't know i'm not requesting this i'm

1429
00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:12,400
not no ce5 was performed no dmt

1430
00:56:16,789 --> 00:56:14,160
trip was done

1431
00:56:18,870 --> 00:56:16,799
there was no means of any kind of

1432
00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:18,880
connection being made

1433
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:22,160
they sought me out i'm convinced of it

1434
00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:24,240
but in your fee you're feeling like

1435
00:56:29,430 --> 00:56:26,480
because if they if they say to you come

1436
00:56:32,549 --> 00:56:29,440
outside and you go outside

1437
00:56:34,390 --> 00:56:32,559
something's telling you to go outside

1438
00:56:36,870 --> 00:56:34,400
yes um

1439
00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:36,880
i i don't is it your heart

1440
00:56:40,230 --> 00:56:38,000
no it's like

1441
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:40,240
it's that voice that that that i

1442
00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:41,680
described like when you're talking into

1443
00:56:52,150 --> 00:56:49,990
do you feel compelled or do you feel

1444
00:56:53,829 --> 00:56:52,160
how do i say this do you feel it was of

1445
00:56:56,829 --> 00:56:53,839
your own volition or do you feel like

1446
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:56,839
you were compelled to go outside and

1447
00:57:01,589 --> 00:56:59,680
interact i remember being like son of a

1448
00:57:02,950 --> 00:57:01,599
[\h__\h] now what

1449
00:57:04,950 --> 00:57:02,960
you know like

1450
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:04,960
kind of annoyed by it in a way

1451
00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:06,400
a little

1452
00:57:10,630 --> 00:57:08,799
and i remember sending a text to my wife

1453
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:10,640
like another ufo just flew over

1454
00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:12,960
boomerang close could have thrown a rock

1455
00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:14,960
at it you know and these people that are

1456
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:16,079
like oh

1457
00:57:20,470 --> 00:57:18,480
wow okay let me back up i don't mean to

1458
00:57:22,710 --> 00:57:20,480
mock it because i don't know

1459
00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:22,720
yeah but that this idea that it's just

1460
00:57:27,670 --> 00:57:25,359
an extension of ourselves or we manifest

1461
00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:27,680
it from our own

1462
00:57:32,549 --> 00:57:29,920
mind i'm like dude

1463
00:57:34,150 --> 00:57:32,559
with a rock and it would have gone thunk

1464
00:57:36,950 --> 00:57:34,160
yeah now no

1465
00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:36,960
i'm in close i'm in close proximity to

1466
00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:39,119
the nasa jet propulsion lab

1467
00:57:42,549 --> 00:57:41,520
is that something out of there i have no

1468
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:42,559
idea

1469
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:44,880
but these things are getting closer and

1470
00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:49,200
closer and the shapes are varying wildly

1471
00:57:55,030 --> 00:57:52,720
now they're i hate stop me if i'm boring

1472
00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:55,040
you guys well no i actually have a

1473
00:58:00,710 --> 00:57:57,520
question and then and i apologize if you

1474
00:58:02,549 --> 00:58:00,720
are going to get to this but

1475
00:58:04,069 --> 00:58:02,559
oh all right we'll come back to it soon

1476
00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:04,079
we'll have to come back to it

1477
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:06,720
the cliffhanger question there we are

1478
00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:09,359
see when nathan gets a question it

1479
00:58:15,430 --> 00:58:11,200
really something happens in the universe

1480
00:58:20,230 --> 00:58:17,990
we are calling all beings uh we are not

1481
00:58:22,630 --> 00:58:20,240
going to talk about our our powerhouse

1482
00:58:24,069 --> 00:58:22,640
roundtable that we're in the process of

1483
00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:24,079
playing right now we are going to talk

1484
00:58:29,270 --> 00:58:27,119
to david john lanier and nathan has a

1485
00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:29,280
question that he would like to pose to

1486
00:58:34,230 --> 00:58:31,760
you please go ahead my good friend yeah

1487
00:58:37,510 --> 00:58:34,240
so david uh when we talked earlier

1488
00:58:40,630 --> 00:58:37,520
you had mentioned to us um

1489
00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:40,640
that you had had a a physical

1490
00:58:43,270 --> 00:58:41,760
uh

1491
00:58:44,950 --> 00:58:43,280
effect

1492
00:58:46,950 --> 00:58:44,960
on i think your arm or something like

1493
00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:46,960
that is is that before or after this

1494
00:58:49,030 --> 00:58:47,920
incident

1495
00:58:52,150 --> 00:58:49,040
during

1496
00:58:54,150 --> 00:58:52,160
like as they're getting closer

1497
00:58:55,190 --> 00:58:54,160
like they went from just being the

1498
00:58:56,150 --> 00:58:55,200
lights

1499
00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:56,160
to

1500
00:59:02,829 --> 00:59:00,319
point where i'm seeing like boomerangs

1501
00:59:04,789 --> 00:59:02,839
50 to 60 feet above my head that i could

1502
00:59:08,549 --> 00:59:04,799
literally hit with a rock

1503
00:59:11,109 --> 00:59:08,559
right and it was during that time that

1504
00:59:13,589 --> 00:59:11,119
these kinds of things were happening

1505
00:59:15,270 --> 00:59:13,599
which really freaked me out

1506
00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:15,280
uh and i should also add that at this

1507
00:59:22,150 --> 00:59:17,359
point i had stopped filming

1508
00:59:24,789 --> 00:59:22,160
because this was you know 2009 2010

1509
00:59:27,349 --> 00:59:24,799
and i just kind of felt like it was

1510
00:59:29,829 --> 00:59:27,359
really personal and they would come

1511
00:59:33,910 --> 00:59:29,839
closer if i stopped filming

1512
00:59:35,670 --> 00:59:33,920
and at one point they told me

1513
00:59:37,030 --> 00:59:35,680
i don't know

1514
00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:37,040
oh my god

1515
00:59:41,750 --> 00:59:39,920
that to to stop talking about it to stop

1516
00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:41,760
filming it

1517
00:59:45,910 --> 00:59:44,160
and and so you know i did and that's

1518
00:59:47,430 --> 00:59:45,920
when they started getting real close and

1519
00:59:49,270 --> 00:59:47,440
i was like okay this is like just a

1520
00:59:51,589 --> 00:59:49,280
one-on-one thing this is like they don't

1521
00:59:53,510 --> 00:59:51,599
want everybody knowing this is going on

1522
00:59:55,109 --> 00:59:53,520
this is just personal this is very

1523
00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:55,119
personal they don't want other people to

1524
00:59:59,270 --> 00:59:57,119
know what's going on if i don't film it

1525
01:00:01,670 --> 00:59:59,280
they get closer and i can figure out

1526
01:00:03,430 --> 01:00:01,680
what's going on with all this

1527
01:00:05,270 --> 01:00:03,440
yeah um

1528
01:00:07,030 --> 01:00:05,280
do i need to wait did he just don't know

1529
01:00:08,710 --> 01:00:07,040
he's i think he just turned the world

1530
01:00:09,430 --> 01:00:08,720
campaign

1531
01:00:10,309 --> 01:00:09,440
so

1532
01:00:13,589 --> 01:00:10,319
um

1533
01:00:17,670 --> 01:00:15,589
so it has kind of an intimacy to it in a

1534
01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:17,680
way like uh like this is meant for you

1535
01:00:21,030 --> 01:00:18,960
or just

1536
01:00:23,109 --> 01:00:21,040
meant for you only really not meant for

1537
01:00:26,710 --> 01:00:23,119
other people to know about yeah pretty

1538
01:00:28,150 --> 01:00:26,720
much uh and that kind of ties in later

1539
01:00:31,349 --> 01:00:28,160
and this is why it just gets so

1540
01:00:34,230 --> 01:00:31,359
confusing because i could go on and on

1541
01:00:35,910 --> 01:00:34,240
there was a there was a metallic sphere

1542
01:00:37,990 --> 01:00:35,920
just a ball

1543
01:00:40,390 --> 01:00:38,000
that came again these things are like

1544
01:00:43,109 --> 01:00:40,400
below tree top level

1545
01:00:45,829 --> 01:00:43,119
so i'm assuming between 80 to 100 feet

1546
01:00:46,630 --> 01:00:45,839
like clear most of it all the time at

1547
01:00:48,870 --> 01:00:46,640
night

1548
01:00:49,829 --> 01:00:48,880
i there was one craft i saw during the

1549
01:00:52,630 --> 01:00:49,839
day

1550
01:00:55,510 --> 01:00:52,640
i'm not sure what it was but

1551
01:00:57,349 --> 01:00:55,520
do that did does he need to come back no

1552
01:00:58,950 --> 01:00:57,359
he asked me to take him off the stage

1553
01:01:00,789 --> 01:00:58,960
for a second so you're good just keep

1554
01:01:02,950 --> 01:01:00,799
keep going so

1555
01:01:04,789 --> 01:01:02,960
the sphere

1556
01:01:07,030 --> 01:01:04,799
is coming

1557
01:01:09,990 --> 01:01:07,040
below treetop level

1558
01:01:12,069 --> 01:01:10,000
and it has like it's just like a ball i

1559
01:01:13,589 --> 01:01:12,079
don't know how big it is probably like

1560
01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:13,599
oh

1561
01:01:17,589 --> 01:01:16,400
you know it's not big 10 15 feet in

1562
01:01:20,390 --> 01:01:17,599
diameter

1563
01:01:22,950 --> 01:01:20,400
give or take you know five feet towards

1564
01:01:25,990 --> 01:01:22,960
20 not towards five okay

1565
01:01:27,750 --> 01:01:26,000
uh it's just this ball and it has like

1566
01:01:30,150 --> 01:01:27,760
these little red lights

1567
01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:30,160
that are above and below it

1568
01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:32,240
probably about eight or nine small red

1569
01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:34,079
lights above and below it and they're

1570
01:01:38,150 --> 01:01:36,640
undulating just like

1571
01:01:39,430 --> 01:01:38,160
getting fur does that make any sense

1572
01:01:42,230 --> 01:01:39,440
like they're getting further away and

1573
01:01:43,910 --> 01:01:42,240
closer and they look to be attached to

1574
01:01:46,870 --> 01:01:43,920
antenna

1575
01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:46,880
okay okay these aren't orbs

1576
01:01:50,950 --> 01:01:48,640
because now they're attached to some

1577
01:01:53,109 --> 01:01:50,960
kind of antenna and it's they're

1578
01:01:54,549 --> 01:01:53,119
undulating and

1579
01:01:57,190 --> 01:01:54,559
it's flying

1580
01:02:00,390 --> 01:01:57,200
again it's not high less than 100 feet

1581
01:02:01,990 --> 01:02:00,400
not far away less than 50 yards away

1582
01:02:03,910 --> 01:02:02,000
and again at this point it's like so

1583
01:02:05,270 --> 01:02:03,920
regular that i'm just like

1584
01:02:06,390 --> 01:02:05,280
well what now

1585
01:02:08,390 --> 01:02:06,400
and so

1586
01:02:11,029 --> 01:02:08,400
this this light comes on like a

1587
01:02:12,630 --> 01:02:11,039
headlight just a single light just

1588
01:02:15,270 --> 01:02:12,640
just right ahead of it so it's going

1589
01:02:16,710 --> 01:02:15,280
like this this metal orb this light goes

1590
01:02:18,309 --> 01:02:16,720
on

1591
01:02:19,670 --> 01:02:18,319
shining straight ahead and then the

1592
01:02:22,470 --> 01:02:19,680
light goes

1593
01:02:25,829 --> 01:02:22,480
and shines on me

1594
01:02:28,390 --> 01:02:25,839
and it shines on me for like

1595
01:02:30,309 --> 01:02:28,400
oh like one mississippi two mississippi

1596
01:02:31,829 --> 01:02:30,319
three mississippi four mississippi five

1597
01:02:34,069 --> 01:02:31,839
mississippi then it swings the light

1598
01:02:35,349 --> 01:02:34,079
forward and i don't remember what

1599
01:02:37,270 --> 01:02:35,359
happened after that

1600
01:02:38,870 --> 01:02:37,280
hmm i'm not saying anything weird

1601
01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:38,880
happened actually

1602
01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:40,240
get in that thing

1603
01:02:44,390 --> 01:02:42,640
i don't know what's going on

1604
01:02:46,309 --> 01:02:44,400
right right it's too small

1605
01:02:47,910 --> 01:02:46,319
excuse me yeah like an hour gas

1606
01:02:51,430 --> 01:02:47,920
somewhere between 10 to 20 feet in

1607
01:02:54,789 --> 01:02:52,870
um

1608
01:02:56,549 --> 01:02:54,799
and i guess i'm telling these particular

1609
01:02:58,549 --> 01:02:56,559
instances because

1610
01:03:00,470 --> 01:02:58,559
these are where they were shiny lights

1611
01:03:03,109 --> 01:03:00,480
on me as if to communicate but now we've

1612
01:03:05,349 --> 01:03:03,119
got a triangle we've got a blueberry

1613
01:03:08,549 --> 01:03:05,359
we've got a sphere and i'm going like is

1614
01:03:11,349 --> 01:03:08,559
this a parade am i being privy to

1615
01:03:13,430 --> 01:03:11,359
multiple species right now what have i

1616
01:03:14,390 --> 01:03:13,440
done what do you want with me what's

1617
01:03:17,990 --> 01:03:14,400
happening

1618
01:03:20,309 --> 01:03:18,000
there was another where it was just an x

1619
01:03:22,470 --> 01:03:20,319
i've heard of that before as well

1620
01:03:23,910 --> 01:03:22,480
i thought i was going nuts

1621
01:03:25,589 --> 01:03:23,920
i don't tell people about it because i'm

1622
01:03:27,109 --> 01:03:25,599
like i've never heard of an x-shaped

1623
01:03:29,910 --> 01:03:27,119
craft

1624
01:03:31,510 --> 01:03:29,920
literally not much bigger than my car

1625
01:03:34,950 --> 01:03:31,520
and then on

1626
01:03:37,270 --> 01:03:34,960
okay here's the x and on two of the

1627
01:03:38,950 --> 01:03:37,280
points there's red lights

1628
01:03:43,109 --> 01:03:38,960
and they're swimming through the air

1629
01:03:49,349 --> 01:03:47,349
i mean they're swimming around the craft

1630
01:03:52,069 --> 01:03:49,359
and i have no recollection of what

1631
01:03:53,670 --> 01:03:52,079
happens after before why i was standing

1632
01:03:55,589 --> 01:03:53,680
there i'm not saying anything weird

1633
01:03:57,750 --> 01:03:55,599
happened it was ten years ago

1634
01:04:00,470 --> 01:03:57,760
i just that's all i remember

1635
01:04:02,430 --> 01:04:00,480
um there was another word

1636
01:04:06,309 --> 01:04:02,440
there were like these four

1637
01:04:09,190 --> 01:04:06,319
gigantic orbs of orange light probably

1638
01:04:12,470 --> 01:04:09,200
20 to 30 feet in diameter

1639
01:04:15,270 --> 01:04:12,480
all next to each other in a row

1640
01:04:16,950 --> 01:04:15,280
and then there was a smaller fifth one

1641
01:04:17,829 --> 01:04:16,960
in the middle

1642
01:04:18,870 --> 01:04:17,839
above

1643
01:04:22,549 --> 01:04:18,880
the four

1644
01:04:25,190 --> 01:04:22,559
and they were just slowly drifting at me

1645
01:04:27,190 --> 01:04:25,200
i ran inside i ran this guy

1646
01:04:29,349 --> 01:04:27,200
of my mind took another hot shower until

1647
01:04:31,270 --> 01:04:29,359
the water ran called

1648
01:04:34,870 --> 01:04:31,280
i you know

1649
01:04:41,349 --> 01:04:38,470
i could go on and on and on you know

1650
01:04:44,309 --> 01:04:41,359
let's let us uh you know a lot of people

1651
01:04:45,349 --> 01:04:44,319
that that follow ufology have seen

1652
01:04:47,430 --> 01:04:45,359
something

1653
01:04:49,589 --> 01:04:47,440
and now we it's actually interesting

1654
01:04:51,510 --> 01:04:49,599
you've probably seen more

1655
01:04:53,430 --> 01:04:51,520
shape craft than anybody that i've

1656
01:04:55,829 --> 01:04:53,440
talked to other than probably lou

1657
01:04:57,349 --> 01:04:55,839
elizondo has probably seen

1658
01:05:01,190 --> 01:04:57,359
you know every shape that's out there

1659
01:05:03,829 --> 01:05:01,200
but i think what is fascinating to to uh

1660
01:05:05,829 --> 01:05:03,839
the the viewers is to hear about

1661
01:05:08,150 --> 01:05:05,839
experiences that you had with them and

1662
01:05:10,230 --> 01:05:08,160
as uh we've gone just a little bit over

1663
01:05:12,549 --> 01:05:10,240
an hour so tell us about the

1664
01:05:14,230 --> 01:05:12,559
interactions that you have to the extent

1665
01:05:16,230 --> 01:05:14,240
that you want to and if that's not

1666
01:05:18,630 --> 01:05:16,240
something that you want to talk about a

1667
01:05:21,349 --> 01:05:18,640
hundred percent don't talk about it but

1668
01:05:22,630 --> 01:05:21,359
the the things that you told us uh

1669
01:05:24,789 --> 01:05:22,640
we're pretty interested that you have

1670
01:05:26,470 --> 01:05:24,799
between you your wife and some members

1671
01:05:27,349 --> 01:05:26,480
of your family

1672
01:05:32,150 --> 01:05:27,359
okay

1673
01:05:36,710 --> 01:05:34,710
real quick i saw another black triangle

1674
01:05:39,029 --> 01:05:36,720
that was much smaller

1675
01:05:41,829 --> 01:05:39,039
fly over an intersection

1676
01:05:44,549 --> 01:05:41,839
and it looked like the tr3b thing

1677
01:05:47,349 --> 01:05:44,559
that wow it was it was little

1678
01:05:50,470 --> 01:05:47,359
and there were people around and nobody

1679
01:05:52,630 --> 01:05:50,480
looked up and i was like oh wow crazy

1680
01:05:54,950 --> 01:05:52,640
like is this am i crazy are you all

1681
01:05:56,069 --> 01:05:54,960
crazy are you that

1682
01:05:58,630 --> 01:05:56,079
numb

1683
01:06:00,069 --> 01:05:58,640
yeah and and then there was a second

1684
01:06:02,630 --> 01:06:00,079
where it

1685
01:06:06,390 --> 01:06:02,640
another one flew over i mean low just

1686
01:06:07,510 --> 01:06:06,400
this giant ass oh my god like safari hat

1687
01:06:09,510 --> 01:06:07,520
looking thing

1688
01:06:11,190 --> 01:06:09,520
i'm looking at everybody's just talking

1689
01:06:13,829 --> 01:06:11,200
and i look up

1690
01:06:14,870 --> 01:06:13,839
nobody's looking up and i'm like what is

1691
01:06:16,390 --> 01:06:14,880
happening

1692
01:06:18,150 --> 01:06:16,400
and at this point i had disconnected

1693
01:06:20,470 --> 01:06:18,160
myself from ufology and from the study

1694
01:06:23,270 --> 01:06:20,480
of it because i didn't want cognitive

1695
01:06:25,910 --> 01:06:23,280
bias to occur and for me to

1696
01:06:28,309 --> 01:06:25,920
be like confused by the issue i was just

1697
01:06:30,789 --> 01:06:28,319
letting this naturally be what it was i

1698
01:06:33,270 --> 01:06:30,799
was like these people are not seeing

1699
01:06:34,710 --> 01:06:33,280
what i'm seeing or they're numb to it or

1700
01:06:36,309 --> 01:06:34,720
i'm going crazy

1701
01:06:39,270 --> 01:06:36,319
it's one of the three

1702
01:06:40,870 --> 01:06:39,280
and if this is the military

1703
01:06:44,230 --> 01:06:40,880
is there like

1704
01:06:46,470 --> 01:06:44,240
a gold mine under my house or something

1705
01:06:50,470 --> 01:06:46,480
what's right

1706
01:06:54,069 --> 01:06:52,230
well you know richard dreyfuss the

1707
01:06:56,470 --> 01:06:54,079
character in close encounters felt the

1708
01:06:59,190 --> 01:06:56,480
same way he felt like am i going crazy

1709
01:07:01,670 --> 01:06:59,200
and supposedly that story is based on

1710
01:07:02,630 --> 01:07:01,680
real uh based on real is that right

1711
01:07:04,069 --> 01:07:02,640
nathan

1712
01:07:06,710 --> 01:07:04,079
that some of that is based on real

1713
01:07:09,750 --> 01:07:06,720
events okay all right steven spielberg

1714
01:07:11,589 --> 01:07:09,760
did his homework no he did yeah he did

1715
01:07:12,950 --> 01:07:11,599
and jacqueline was a consultant on that

1716
01:07:13,750 --> 01:07:12,960
sean

1717
01:07:15,670 --> 01:07:13,760
was kind of like that

1718
01:07:17,910 --> 01:07:15,680
culmination of a lot of things and i

1719
01:07:21,430 --> 01:07:17,920
mean i was lit i at this point i was

1720
01:07:22,789 --> 01:07:21,440
building mashed potato mountains

1721
01:07:26,710 --> 01:07:22,799
yeah

1722
01:07:31,270 --> 01:07:29,430
but like i'm metaphorically speaking it

1723
01:07:32,069 --> 01:07:31,280
was getting to that point where i'm like

1724
01:07:33,510 --> 01:07:32,079
dude

1725
01:07:35,990 --> 01:07:33,520
and so

1726
01:07:37,109 --> 01:07:36,000
now my wife is getting on board she's

1727
01:07:40,470 --> 01:07:37,119
like

1728
01:07:41,910 --> 01:07:40,480
because she sees one with me

1729
01:07:43,349 --> 01:07:41,920
we're leaving to go somewhere with kids

1730
01:07:45,029 --> 01:07:43,359
in the car

1731
01:07:46,630 --> 01:07:45,039
oh my god

1732
01:07:49,510 --> 01:07:46,640
and there's this safari hat looking

1733
01:07:51,829 --> 01:07:49,520
thing coming through the trees i mean

1734
01:07:55,670 --> 01:07:51,839
it's so far down in the trees that it's

1735
01:07:57,510 --> 01:07:55,680
in the forest coming up the trail

1736
01:07:59,510 --> 01:07:57,520
wow and it's got like two headlights

1737
01:08:01,430 --> 01:07:59,520
shining right at me i was like anna do

1738
01:08:02,950 --> 01:08:01,440
you see that she's like yes i see it get

1739
01:08:04,870 --> 01:08:02,960
in the car i was like

1740
01:08:07,430 --> 01:08:04,880
this is historic

1741
01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:07,440
do you see this she was like get in the

1742
01:08:12,549 --> 01:08:10,000
car i was like

1743
01:08:15,190 --> 01:08:12,559
and i get in the car and we leave but i

1744
01:08:19,590 --> 01:08:15,200
it had gotten like that casual

1745
01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:20,870
so

1746
01:08:24,950 --> 01:08:22,400
my wife's getting on board now because

1747
01:08:26,470 --> 01:08:24,960
she's seeing stuff my kids are seeing

1748
01:08:28,229 --> 01:08:26,480
stuff

1749
01:08:30,309 --> 01:08:28,239
my older daughter has seen like some

1750
01:08:31,910 --> 01:08:30,319
kind of green she's trying to explain it

1751
01:08:33,269 --> 01:08:31,920
to me like some kind of green disc with

1752
01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:33,279
green lights on the outside it's like

1753
01:08:41,910 --> 01:08:39,269
hey david did did the conversation

1754
01:08:44,950 --> 01:08:41,920
between you and your wife shift at this

1755
01:08:47,510 --> 01:08:44,960
point because now up to then it had been

1756
01:08:49,430 --> 01:08:47,520
you seeing things and her telling you

1757
01:08:52,470 --> 01:08:49,440
you know get inside don't go look for

1758
01:08:54,870 --> 01:08:52,480
these things and now she saw it did

1759
01:08:55,910 --> 01:08:54,880
anything change at that point

1760
01:08:59,590 --> 01:08:55,920
um

1761
01:09:01,189 --> 01:08:59,600
yes and that's where things shifted to

1762
01:09:03,030 --> 01:09:01,199
can y'all hear me

1763
01:09:05,110 --> 01:09:03,040
yes sir okay

1764
01:09:08,630 --> 01:09:05,120
that's when things shifted to phase

1765
01:09:11,269 --> 01:09:09,510
that

1766
01:09:12,870 --> 01:09:11,279
now we're seeing beings

1767
01:09:16,229 --> 01:09:12,880
okay

1768
01:09:18,550 --> 01:09:16,239
so one night or one morning i wake up

1769
01:09:20,870 --> 01:09:18,560
okay and keep in mind all this stuff is

1770
01:09:23,829 --> 01:09:20,880
going on and i and that's not even i

1771
01:09:26,309 --> 01:09:23,839
have told a fraction of what i saw

1772
01:09:29,510 --> 01:09:26,319
because i just i'm i'm i'm getting into

1773
01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:29,520
like a manic episode while i'm trying to

1774
01:09:34,870 --> 01:09:33,040
explain all this this stuff and sure

1775
01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:34,880
i'll leave from this conversation and

1776
01:09:39,749 --> 01:09:37,600
remember more craft right i could just

1777
01:09:43,590 --> 01:09:39,759
go on and on point is they're getting

1778
01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:43,600
close they're following me around

1779
01:09:47,669 --> 01:09:45,359
okay like i went to atlanta i took my

1780
01:09:49,669 --> 01:09:47,679
dad to a braves game and thought in my

1781
01:09:52,789 --> 01:09:49,679
mind i want one of these things to show

1782
01:09:54,310 --> 01:09:52,799
up and sure enough one did and my sister

1783
01:09:56,310 --> 01:09:54,320
was with i was like do you see that she

1784
01:09:57,669 --> 01:09:56,320
looked at me she's like david stop i was

1785
01:09:59,830 --> 01:09:57,679
like okay

1786
01:10:02,790 --> 01:09:59,840
and my dad was like is that a helicopter

1787
01:10:05,669 --> 01:10:02,800
i was like no dad that's not it

1788
01:10:08,310 --> 01:10:05,679
wow here and they and and and that kind

1789
01:10:09,430 --> 01:10:08,320
of thing went on like nashville atlanta

1790
01:10:12,229 --> 01:10:09,440
birmingham

1791
01:10:14,070 --> 01:10:12,239
huntsville wherever i was going

1792
01:10:16,149 --> 01:10:14,080
i was seeing these things i'm like dude

1793
01:10:17,830 --> 01:10:16,159
are they following me am i going nuts

1794
01:10:19,270 --> 01:10:17,840
okay so my wife is starting to see these

1795
01:10:20,630 --> 01:10:19,280
things now

1796
01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:20,640
one morning she's folding clothes and

1797
01:10:24,310 --> 01:10:22,320
she said david

1798
01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:24,320
one of those things was in the bedroom i

1799
01:10:27,189 --> 01:10:25,440
was like what do you mean one of those

1800
01:10:28,149 --> 01:10:27,199
things she said but she was like an

1801
01:10:29,669 --> 01:10:28,159
alien

1802
01:10:30,950 --> 01:10:29,679
and i'm just like

1803
01:10:32,630 --> 01:10:30,960
what

1804
01:10:34,310 --> 01:10:32,640
she said yeah i was like where was it

1805
01:10:36,630 --> 01:10:34,320
she said it was over here she turns your

1806
01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:36,640
back she's like it was up here

1807
01:10:40,630 --> 01:10:38,880
and our ceilings are seven feet tall

1808
01:10:42,149 --> 01:10:40,640
she said it was either seven feet taller

1809
01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:42,159
it was floating

1810
01:10:44,709 --> 01:10:43,440
and it looked like it was coming through

1811
01:10:46,550 --> 01:10:44,719
the wall

1812
01:10:49,110 --> 01:10:46,560
and she's got no

1813
01:10:51,110 --> 01:10:49,120
inclination of any of this stuff this is

1814
01:10:53,110 --> 01:10:51,120
homelessness to her she still thinks

1815
01:10:54,709 --> 01:10:53,120
it's foolishness although she's aware

1816
01:10:56,550 --> 01:10:54,719
it's real

1817
01:10:58,390 --> 01:10:56,560
um

1818
01:11:01,270 --> 01:10:58,400
and i was like coming through the wall

1819
01:11:03,350 --> 01:11:01,280
great because again this is i'm a virgin

1820
01:11:05,189 --> 01:11:03,360
to this thing and even though this is

1821
01:11:06,630 --> 01:11:05,199
happening over the course of years i'm

1822
01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:06,640
like reading something going like they

1823
01:11:09,830 --> 01:11:08,320
can come through walls and then my wife

1824
01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:09,840
who knows nothing she's like it might

1825
01:11:13,350 --> 01:11:11,040
have been coming through the wall i was

1826
01:11:17,110 --> 01:11:13,360
like oh my god

1827
01:11:20,149 --> 01:11:18,630
i said what it looked like she was like

1828
01:11:23,510 --> 01:11:20,159
you know like

1829
01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:23,520
light bulb shaped head big black eyes

1830
01:11:28,390 --> 01:11:26,560
little mouth little nose i said did you

1831
01:11:30,790 --> 01:11:28,400
see its whole body she said i only saw

1832
01:11:32,950 --> 01:11:30,800
its torso like from its arms up to its

1833
01:11:35,189 --> 01:11:32,960
head she said i thought i was seeing

1834
01:11:36,790 --> 01:11:35,199
things but then it shifted its weight

1835
01:11:39,669 --> 01:11:36,800
and it moved

1836
01:11:41,590 --> 01:11:39,679
and she said i dug my fingernails into

1837
01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:41,600
your bicep

1838
01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:43,760
and you were just dead

1839
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:45,760
she said i tried to wake you up and you

1840
01:11:48,550 --> 01:11:47,280
wouldn't wake up

1841
01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:48,560
and i was like

1842
01:11:52,070 --> 01:11:50,320
what did you do she said i pulled the

1843
01:11:56,470 --> 01:11:52,080
covers over my head and i prayed to god

1844
01:12:00,070 --> 01:11:58,550
david if i could if i could jump in here

1845
01:12:03,430 --> 01:12:00,080
and i apologize nathan i didn't mean to

1846
01:12:04,149 --> 01:12:03,440
cut you off that's fine what do you if

1847
01:12:06,390 --> 01:12:04,159
so

1848
01:12:07,669 --> 01:12:06,400
you were being kept asleep

1849
01:12:09,590 --> 01:12:07,679
for some reason

1850
01:12:10,630 --> 01:12:09,600
i have no idea

1851
01:12:12,229 --> 01:12:10,640
okay

1852
01:12:14,310 --> 01:12:12,239
no

1853
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:14,320
okay second second part of the question

1854
01:12:18,630 --> 01:12:15,520
then would be

1855
01:12:19,350 --> 01:12:18,640
why would they do that because

1856
01:12:21,590 --> 01:12:19,360
it

1857
01:12:22,470 --> 01:12:21,600
why what do you think they're trying to

1858
01:12:31,910 --> 01:12:22,480
do

1859
01:12:33,669 --> 01:12:31,920
and that comes a little bit later

1860
01:12:35,590 --> 01:12:33,679
because

1861
01:12:38,870 --> 01:12:35,600
all along

1862
01:12:40,149 --> 01:12:38,880
getting closer i would ask for them to

1863
01:12:41,910 --> 01:12:40,159
show up because i couldn't believe this

1864
01:12:43,510 --> 01:12:41,920
was happening i was like y'all can hear

1865
01:12:48,790 --> 01:12:43,520
me and you're in crafts and these are

1866
01:12:53,669 --> 01:12:51,510
and so now we've got to be

1867
01:12:56,229 --> 01:12:53,679
in the house coming through the wall

1868
01:12:58,470 --> 01:12:56,239
i have i have no idea i i don't want to

1869
01:13:00,709 --> 01:12:58,480
speculate but all i know is

1870
01:13:03,270 --> 01:13:00,719
she's got some long fingernails

1871
01:13:05,270 --> 01:13:03,280
that's dug it into my arm

1872
01:13:06,229 --> 01:13:05,280
trying to wake me up and i didn't wake

1873
01:13:08,630 --> 01:13:06,239
up

1874
01:13:11,270 --> 01:13:08,640
yeah and so now

1875
01:13:14,070 --> 01:13:11,280
i'm beyond scared

1876
01:13:18,149 --> 01:13:16,870
i mean i'm in a panic i i don't know

1877
01:13:19,910 --> 01:13:18,159
and this is where the story is going to

1878
01:13:22,550 --> 01:13:19,920
start kind of jumping around because

1879
01:13:25,270 --> 01:13:22,560
then the dream started and the voices

1880
01:13:33,189 --> 01:13:27,910
um and and i do think that what they

1881
01:13:35,510 --> 01:13:33,199
told me and the dreams are relevant

1882
01:13:40,790 --> 01:13:37,830
you know my mind just went blind but

1883
01:13:44,390 --> 01:13:40,800
what were those what were those things

1884
01:13:47,430 --> 01:13:44,400
uh you know um

1885
01:13:48,229 --> 01:13:47,440
i'm trying to there were more beings you

1886
01:13:51,669 --> 01:13:48,239
know

1887
01:13:53,590 --> 01:13:51,679
if i could jump across real quick my son

1888
01:13:55,189 --> 01:13:53,600
woke up one morning and said he woke up

1889
01:13:57,830 --> 01:13:55,199
in the middle of the night and was stuck

1890
01:14:03,030 --> 01:13:57,840
to the ceiling and he heard footsteps on

1891
01:14:07,910 --> 01:14:04,709
it's okay

1892
01:14:09,990 --> 01:14:07,920
sorry david it it was scared

1893
01:14:11,270 --> 01:14:10,000
it would scare the hell out of anybody

1894
01:14:12,630 --> 01:14:11,280
absolutely

1895
01:14:14,870 --> 01:14:12,640
okay

1896
01:14:17,750 --> 01:14:14,880
to be in this situation then he had like

1897
01:14:19,669 --> 01:14:17,760
this like thing he had this lump in his

1898
01:14:20,870 --> 01:14:19,679
foot that looked like the size of your

1899
01:14:22,950 --> 01:14:20,880
pinky

1900
01:14:25,910 --> 01:14:22,960
just this lump in his foot and it has

1901
01:14:27,590 --> 01:14:25,920
since concave now it's just like concave

1902
01:14:31,669 --> 01:14:27,600
scoop at the bottom of his foot and it

1903
01:14:33,669 --> 01:14:32,790
so

1904
01:14:34,550 --> 01:14:33,679
what

1905
01:14:36,229 --> 01:14:34,560
so

1906
01:14:37,669 --> 01:14:36,239
um

1907
01:14:38,709 --> 01:14:37,679
and then my daughter my five-year-old

1908
01:14:40,870 --> 01:14:38,719
daughter wakes up in the middle of a

1909
01:14:42,229 --> 01:14:40,880
nice scream bloody murder

1910
01:14:44,070 --> 01:14:42,239
and then the next day she's just like

1911
01:14:45,510 --> 01:14:44,080
clinging to me she won't talk i'm like

1912
01:14:47,189 --> 01:14:45,520
what's going on what you see she keeps

1913
01:14:48,630 --> 01:14:47,199
like side eyeing this like bottom pain

1914
01:14:50,950 --> 01:14:48,640
in the window

1915
01:14:52,950 --> 01:14:50,960
and um

1916
01:14:55,030 --> 01:14:52,960
and she was like there was a big bird

1917
01:14:57,750 --> 01:14:55,040
staring in the window and it had big

1918
01:14:59,189 --> 01:14:57,760
eyes and a pointy mouth

1919
01:15:02,070 --> 01:14:59,199
she's five

1920
01:15:06,310 --> 01:15:02,080
and i'm like okay

1921
01:15:10,630 --> 01:15:08,550
and then my wife like

1922
01:15:12,950 --> 01:15:10,640
okay so now i have to stop and say now

1923
01:15:16,790 --> 01:15:12,960
i'm talking to them and when i talk to

1924
01:15:18,310 --> 01:15:16,800
them i'm outside and i can see a craft

1925
01:15:20,550 --> 01:15:18,320
you know and i don't have clear

1926
01:15:22,229 --> 01:15:20,560
recollections but i'm like i just recall

1927
01:15:25,510 --> 01:15:22,239
one night like having my hands on my

1928
01:15:27,270 --> 01:15:25,520
knees i'm gagging i'm crying i'm

1929
01:15:28,950 --> 01:15:27,280
stumbling around like i'm drunk not

1930
01:15:30,070 --> 01:15:28,960
drunk and there's these two orange

1931
01:15:33,030 --> 01:15:30,080
lights

1932
01:15:34,390 --> 01:15:33,040
on the opposite sides of the tree line

1933
01:15:35,990 --> 01:15:34,400
and i asked and i'm having a

1934
01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:36,000
conversation i'm like we gotta get to

1935
01:15:39,669 --> 01:15:37,840
the bottom of this and you can hear me

1936
01:15:41,430 --> 01:15:39,679
and y'all are in my house now i want

1937
01:15:43,030 --> 01:15:41,440
answers

1938
01:15:44,709 --> 01:15:43,040
what's going on

1939
01:15:46,790 --> 01:15:44,719
you know this is starting to feel a

1940
01:15:48,070 --> 01:15:46,800
little bit violating

1941
01:15:50,470 --> 01:15:48,080
and so

1942
01:15:55,030 --> 01:15:52,950
oh my god i can't believe i'm saying

1943
01:15:56,470 --> 01:15:55,040
it's a lot it's very it's very violating

1944
01:15:59,510 --> 01:15:56,480
not even a little bit

1945
01:16:02,070 --> 01:15:59,520
yeah so i ask it

1946
01:16:04,470 --> 01:16:02,080
what's the deal with god heaven hell

1947
01:16:07,270 --> 01:16:04,480
jesus the devil i can almost remember

1948
01:16:08,550 --> 01:16:07,280
verbatim what i heard

1949
01:16:10,470 --> 01:16:08,560
am i going nuts am i having a

1950
01:16:11,830 --> 01:16:10,480
schizophrenic episode i don't know i

1951
01:16:15,590 --> 01:16:11,840
don't think so

1952
01:16:17,830 --> 01:16:15,600
and they said it said she said

1953
01:16:19,430 --> 01:16:17,840
we can now reveal to you the answers to

1954
01:16:21,189 --> 01:16:19,440
those types of questions because it

1955
01:16:22,950 --> 01:16:21,199
would defeat the purpose of the faith

1956
01:16:24,470 --> 01:16:22,960
that's required to believe in such

1957
01:16:26,870 --> 01:16:24,480
things

1958
01:16:31,110 --> 01:16:26,880
then i ask if there's anything to the

1959
01:16:32,149 --> 01:16:31,120
2012 phenomenon this was like in 2011

1960
01:16:33,990 --> 01:16:32,159
i said

1961
01:16:35,750 --> 01:16:34,000
not in the way that you think there will

1962
01:16:36,870 --> 01:16:35,760
be chaos and destruction but life will

1963
01:16:38,790 --> 01:16:36,880
go on

1964
01:16:41,110 --> 01:16:38,800
and this was right after haiti had

1965
01:16:42,470 --> 01:16:41,120
happened i was like similar to haiti

1966
01:16:44,070 --> 01:16:42,480
they're like yes

1967
01:16:46,790 --> 01:16:44,080
but life will go on

1968
01:16:49,189 --> 01:16:46,800
and then not long after that the tsunami

1969
01:16:51,910 --> 01:16:49,199
hit japan and i'm just watching the tv

1970
01:16:53,270 --> 01:16:51,920
going like dude is the world about to

1971
01:16:54,950 --> 01:16:53,280
end

1972
01:16:56,709 --> 01:16:54,960
you know and then i ask and most of the

1973
01:16:59,910 --> 01:16:56,719
time when i'm talking to them i'm seeing

1974
01:17:01,590 --> 01:16:59,920
a craft outside

1975
01:17:03,669 --> 01:17:01,600
and sometimes it's just sitting on my

1976
01:17:05,030 --> 01:17:03,679
sofa you know because the relationship

1977
01:17:08,310 --> 01:17:05,040
at that point had gotten like i could

1978
01:17:09,189 --> 01:17:08,320
just like like punching in a tv chat

1979
01:17:12,630 --> 01:17:09,199
yeah

1980
01:17:16,149 --> 01:17:14,470
why is this happening

1981
01:17:17,510 --> 01:17:16,159
like we can't reveal to you the answers

1982
01:17:19,830 --> 01:17:17,520
to those kinds of questions because you

1983
01:17:22,070 --> 01:17:19,840
wouldn't be able to handle it

1984
01:17:25,669 --> 01:17:22,080
but it'll make sense as you continue to

1985
01:17:26,790 --> 01:17:25,679
live your life and it's necessary

1986
01:17:28,390 --> 01:17:26,800
i'm like

1987
01:17:29,430 --> 01:17:28,400
that's vague

1988
01:17:32,149 --> 01:17:29,440
trying

1989
01:17:34,709 --> 01:17:32,159
like you know in in transmission

1990
01:17:37,590 --> 01:17:34,719
are you doing this to my kids are you

1991
01:17:40,229 --> 01:17:37,600
doing this to my pregnant wife yes

1992
01:17:41,750 --> 01:17:40,239
but nobody's being hurt nobody will

1993
01:17:43,270 --> 01:17:41,760
remember anything

1994
01:17:44,790 --> 01:17:43,280
and it's all

1995
01:17:48,149 --> 01:17:44,800
for a purpose

1996
01:17:50,950 --> 01:17:48,159
a good purpose trust us calm down

1997
01:17:54,390 --> 01:17:50,960
everything will be fine like no

1998
01:17:55,669 --> 01:17:54,400
no stop whatever you've got to do

1999
01:17:58,390 --> 01:17:55,679
do it to me

2000
01:18:00,390 --> 01:17:58,400
but leave my wife and kids out of this

2001
01:18:02,149 --> 01:18:00,400
then i come home from work at 11 30

2002
01:18:05,030 --> 01:18:02,159
shortly after saying that and there's

2003
01:18:07,350 --> 01:18:05,040
this tear-drop shaped craft hanging like

2004
01:18:09,270 --> 01:18:07,360
80 feet above my house just hanging in

2005
01:18:11,430 --> 01:18:09,280
the air it's got like three big white

2006
01:18:13,669 --> 01:18:11,440
lights on the bottom of it little green

2007
01:18:15,189 --> 01:18:13,679
like tip wings

2008
01:18:17,350 --> 01:18:15,199
looks like a pair

2009
01:18:19,189 --> 01:18:17,360
but like laying on its side it's just

2010
01:18:20,709 --> 01:18:19,199
hanging and i'm like they're waiting

2011
01:18:21,590 --> 01:18:20,719
till i'm gone

2012
01:18:24,149 --> 01:18:21,600
yeah

2013
01:18:25,750 --> 01:18:24,159
and then i i'm looking at my windshield

2014
01:18:28,390 --> 01:18:25,760
because my car is parked in the driveway

2015
01:18:30,310 --> 01:18:28,400
and it flies over me and i lean back so

2016
01:18:32,149 --> 01:18:30,320
i don't want to face the reality of it

2017
01:18:33,830 --> 01:18:32,159
and i look back out it's like a glitch

2018
01:18:36,149 --> 01:18:33,840
in the matrix and it there it is again

2019
01:18:38,550 --> 01:18:36,159
it's like a skip and a tape reel and it

2020
01:18:40,630 --> 01:18:38,560
flies back over me again

2021
01:18:41,990 --> 01:18:40,640
and then around that time my wife was

2022
01:18:42,950 --> 01:18:42,000
like well you were at work i woke up in

2023
01:18:44,870 --> 01:18:42,960
the middle of the night and there were

2024
01:18:46,550 --> 01:18:44,880
two of them standing at the foot of the

2025
01:18:48,229 --> 01:18:46,560
bed shoulder to shoulder didn't say

2026
01:18:49,830 --> 01:18:48,239
anything they were just standing there

2027
01:18:53,030 --> 01:18:49,840
it's like what did you do

2028
01:18:57,110 --> 01:18:53,040
two two one right yeah two to what

2029
01:18:59,669 --> 01:18:57,120
two beings aliens graves

2030
01:19:01,430 --> 01:18:59,679
standing shoulder to shoulder

2031
01:19:02,870 --> 01:19:01,440
you know not saying anything

2032
01:19:04,870 --> 01:19:02,880
said what'd you do

2033
01:19:05,830 --> 01:19:04,880
covered my head with the sheets and

2034
01:19:07,669 --> 01:19:05,840
prayed

2035
01:19:09,270 --> 01:19:07,679
that they would go away

2036
01:19:11,669 --> 01:19:09,280
and so now i'm like they're coming to

2037
01:19:13,830 --> 01:19:11,679
the house while i'm gone

2038
01:19:17,590 --> 01:19:13,840
i asked them not to and now they're in

2039
01:19:26,550 --> 01:19:20,229
so i'm pissed

2040
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,950
you know

2041
01:19:32,950 --> 01:19:30,630
you're frustrated because there's not a

2042
01:19:36,550 --> 01:19:32,960
there's just no sense of trust there

2043
01:19:38,390 --> 01:19:36,560
well there's a one sided it's one-sided

2044
01:19:41,430 --> 01:19:38,400
yeah like

2045
01:19:43,590 --> 01:19:41,440
it would be like if i asked you

2046
01:19:45,990 --> 01:19:43,600
what's the weather like today and you're

2047
01:19:47,830 --> 01:19:46,000
or if i asked you what color your shirt

2048
01:19:52,790 --> 01:19:47,840
was and i couldn't see you and you were

2049
01:19:56,550 --> 01:19:54,390
yeah not clear enough a little more

2050
01:19:58,630 --> 01:19:56,560
specific and it's always like you can't

2051
01:20:00,790 --> 01:19:58,640
handle it it's for a greater purpose

2052
01:20:01,990 --> 01:20:00,800
just trust me what's this greater

2053
01:20:04,950 --> 01:20:02,000
purpose

2054
01:20:06,790 --> 01:20:04,960
the idea was

2055
01:20:09,590 --> 01:20:06,800
if

2056
01:20:11,110 --> 01:20:09,600
[\h__\h] hits the fan

2057
01:20:13,510 --> 01:20:11,120
what we're doing

2058
01:20:14,870 --> 01:20:13,520
will enable you to be

2059
01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:14,880
with us

2060
01:20:20,229 --> 01:20:18,400
in some way on the craft wherever we are

2061
01:20:24,950 --> 01:20:20,239
live we're going

2062
01:20:32,550 --> 01:20:25,830
and

2063
01:20:35,750 --> 01:20:32,560
okay so that ties into the dreams

2064
01:20:37,669 --> 01:20:35,760
i'm have i'm having these dreams

2065
01:20:40,149 --> 01:20:37,679
you know go out and there's just this

2066
01:20:41,590 --> 01:20:40,159
lattice work of ufos in the sky and they

2067
01:20:43,430 --> 01:20:41,600
look they're just discs and they're

2068
01:20:45,510 --> 01:20:43,440
multi-colored and they're flashing

2069
01:20:47,350 --> 01:20:45,520
colors and they're everywhere and

2070
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:47,360
there's just this sense that they've

2071
01:20:50,790 --> 01:20:49,280
shown themselves and it's not an

2072
01:20:53,189 --> 01:20:50,800
invasion they're not attacking they're

2073
01:20:56,229 --> 01:20:53,199
just flexing they're just saying

2074
01:20:58,950 --> 01:20:56,239
know that we're here know who's

2075
01:21:00,950 --> 01:20:58,960
boss around here and you all better act

2076
01:21:03,110 --> 01:21:00,960
right and that's just for all of

2077
01:21:04,629 --> 01:21:03,120
humanity and life still goes on

2078
01:21:07,510 --> 01:21:04,639
everybody's going to work but there's

2079
01:21:09,110 --> 01:21:07,520
just this like jesus christ

2080
01:21:12,070 --> 01:21:09,120
like you know

2081
01:21:13,669 --> 01:21:12,080
that kind of is the vibe and i had two

2082
01:21:16,229 --> 01:21:13,679
dreams like that

2083
01:21:19,030 --> 01:21:16,239
and one dream the water levels were

2084
01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:19,040
really high it wasn't flooded but it was

2085
01:21:22,070 --> 01:21:20,560
flooding

2086
01:21:24,070 --> 01:21:22,080
and you know i talked to somebody else

2087
01:21:26,830 --> 01:21:24,080
that's had experiences and oddly enough

2088
01:21:28,470 --> 01:21:26,840
she heard robotic male voices i heard

2089
01:21:29,910 --> 01:21:28,480
robotics

2090
01:21:31,030 --> 01:21:29,920
why

2091
01:21:33,030 --> 01:21:31,040
it's almost like they're trying to make

2092
01:21:34,310 --> 01:21:33,040
you more comfortable by giving you

2093
01:21:36,310 --> 01:21:34,320
something that's

2094
01:21:39,590 --> 01:21:36,320
i don't know

2095
01:21:42,070 --> 01:21:39,600
so hey david at this point in time

2096
01:21:45,350 --> 01:21:42,080
have you confined the these events

2097
01:21:47,830 --> 01:21:45,360
inside your family or is this being

2098
01:21:49,189 --> 01:21:47,840
shared with your wife's family

2099
01:21:52,070 --> 01:21:49,199
your family

2100
01:21:54,229 --> 01:21:52,080
this is just within our own family you

2101
01:21:56,870 --> 01:21:54,239
know okay there were nights where we had

2102
01:21:58,629 --> 01:21:56,880
horses that would run wild on our

2103
01:22:00,310 --> 01:21:58,639
property for a while

2104
01:22:01,910 --> 01:22:00,320
and the horses were in the backyard one

2105
01:22:03,750 --> 01:22:01,920
night and there was just like this

2106
01:22:05,270 --> 01:22:03,760
just this burst of light and all the

2107
01:22:07,030 --> 01:22:05,280
horses were like

2108
01:22:08,709 --> 01:22:07,040
and they took off running and my dog

2109
01:22:11,510 --> 01:22:08,719
started barking at the horses ran after

2110
01:22:13,110 --> 01:22:11,520
the horses and the light i i just you

2111
01:22:15,110 --> 01:22:13,120
know my wife just grabbed my hand real

2112
01:22:17,350 --> 01:22:15,120
tight it's like 10 30 at night just

2113
01:22:19,910 --> 01:22:17,360
stuff like this going on like non-stop a

2114
01:22:22,229 --> 01:22:19,920
little orange or red i can't remember

2115
01:22:24,950 --> 01:22:22,239
light outside of the window one night

2116
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:24,960
having all these crazy dreams you know

2117
01:22:28,550 --> 01:22:26,400
there was a second dream where there was

2118
01:22:30,070 --> 01:22:28,560
the latticework of the ufos i'm sorry

2119
01:22:32,550 --> 01:22:30,080
for talking so much but

2120
01:22:34,709 --> 01:22:32,560
no it's okay it's okay

2121
01:22:36,790 --> 01:22:34,719
so there was another dream at the last

2122
01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:36,800
work ufos

2123
01:22:42,629 --> 01:22:40,000
same vibe they'd show themselves

2124
01:22:45,110 --> 01:22:42,639
no threat but you better watch yourself

2125
01:22:46,709 --> 01:22:45,120
and my son is sleepwalking and he's

2126
01:22:48,870 --> 01:22:46,719
walking into

2127
01:22:51,350 --> 01:22:48,880
the window

2128
01:22:53,030 --> 01:22:51,360
uh trying to go to and i'm like they're

2129
01:22:55,030 --> 01:22:53,040
trying to draw them outside why are they

2130
01:22:57,430 --> 01:22:55,040
trying to draw them outside is that just

2131
01:22:59,510 --> 01:22:57,440
a dream does it does it is it

2132
01:23:01,189 --> 01:22:59,520
coincidental i don't know but it was

2133
01:23:03,590 --> 01:23:01,199
going on at the same time my wife is

2134
01:23:06,470 --> 01:23:03,600
seeing beings and i'm seeing crap close

2135
01:23:08,950 --> 01:23:06,480
enough to throw a rock at something i'm

2136
01:23:11,030 --> 01:23:08,960
seeing orbs flying around x-shaped

2137
01:23:14,550 --> 01:23:11,040
things flying around the back of this

2138
01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:14,560
thing looks like it's out of star war

2139
01:23:18,870 --> 01:23:16,560
i mean this is it sounds like it's

2140
01:23:19,669 --> 01:23:18,880
relentless and

2141
01:23:21,590 --> 01:23:19,679
yes

2142
01:23:24,149 --> 01:23:21,600
i mean is it every week is it every day

2143
01:23:26,070 --> 01:23:24,159
how often does this happen

2144
01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:26,080
to my recollection

2145
01:23:31,350 --> 01:23:28,080
i would say on average about three

2146
01:23:32,390 --> 01:23:31,360
nights a week for about three years

2147
01:23:34,550 --> 01:23:32,400
wow

2148
01:23:36,310 --> 01:23:34,560
it was so often that it literally got to

2149
01:23:39,830 --> 01:23:36,320
the point where it was it wasn't like

2150
01:23:42,229 --> 01:23:39,840
wow look the thing it was like

2151
01:23:43,910 --> 01:23:42,239
what yeah here we go again yeah you know

2152
01:23:45,669 --> 01:23:43,920
and so

2153
01:23:47,189 --> 01:23:45,679
and all the while you know i'm waking up

2154
01:23:48,790 --> 01:23:47,199
like i've got

2155
01:23:49,629 --> 01:23:48,800
four

2156
01:23:52,070 --> 01:23:49,639
white

2157
01:23:53,910 --> 01:23:52,080
discolorations in a row on the back of

2158
01:23:56,550 --> 01:23:53,920
my calf i've got a little scoop out of

2159
01:23:58,149 --> 01:23:56,560
my shin is it some skull wow long time

2160
01:23:59,750 --> 01:23:58,159
ago i don't know

2161
01:24:02,149 --> 01:23:59,760
i woke up one morning there were two

2162
01:24:04,070 --> 01:24:02,159
little holes in my pointer finger and

2163
01:24:05,590 --> 01:24:04,080
this fingernail and this fingernail fell

2164
01:24:08,229 --> 01:24:05,600
off

2165
01:24:09,990 --> 01:24:08,239
and that happened twice

2166
01:24:11,830 --> 01:24:10,000
you know i just put band-aids on it try

2167
01:24:13,669 --> 01:24:11,840
to go about my day and i think about it

2168
01:24:15,510 --> 01:24:13,679
i'm like dude is this connected to that

2169
01:24:17,910 --> 01:24:15,520
is it not connected having some kind of

2170
01:24:19,270 --> 01:24:17,920
fungal infection what's going on my wife

2171
01:24:21,189 --> 01:24:19,280
would wake up she was pregnant she'd

2172
01:24:22,390 --> 01:24:21,199
have a little like scab on her belly

2173
01:24:23,669 --> 01:24:22,400
button

2174
01:24:25,430 --> 01:24:23,679
uh

2175
01:24:27,110 --> 01:24:25,440
you know and she was freaked out i'd

2176
01:24:29,830 --> 01:24:27,120
have little scabs on mine i'd wake up

2177
01:24:32,709 --> 01:24:29,840
just sweating so bad that i was soaked

2178
01:24:34,390 --> 01:24:32,719
through to the mattress i have to take

2179
01:24:36,229 --> 01:24:34,400
i'd have to put like four or five towels

2180
01:24:38,149 --> 01:24:36,239
down and this would happen frequently

2181
01:24:40,550 --> 01:24:38,159
i'm like am i having nightmares

2182
01:24:42,229 --> 01:24:40,560
like what's happening i started smoking

2183
01:24:45,110 --> 01:24:42,239
and drinking coffee

2184
01:24:46,950 --> 01:24:45,120
to stay awake so i wouldn't fall asleep

2185
01:24:48,070 --> 01:24:46,960
so they wouldn't come

2186
01:24:49,669 --> 01:24:48,080
right

2187
01:24:51,189 --> 01:24:49,679
what was it like on the nights and they

2188
01:24:53,270 --> 01:24:51,199
didn't come were you sitting in there

2189
01:24:55,110 --> 01:24:53,280
like you guys are watching tv and you're

2190
01:24:56,229 --> 01:24:55,120
like oh i hope you won't come and then

2191
01:25:00,390 --> 01:24:56,239
they did

2192
01:25:02,709 --> 01:25:00,400
like how did it

2193
01:25:04,550 --> 01:25:02,719
were you what what emotion were you met

2194
01:25:06,229 --> 01:25:04,560
with when they did come

2195
01:25:09,910 --> 01:25:06,239
uh when you're just having a normal

2196
01:25:14,629 --> 01:25:12,390
at this point nothing was normal it was

2197
01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:14,639
very strained

2198
01:25:20,149 --> 01:25:17,280
uh i was i started drinking

2199
01:25:23,270 --> 01:25:20,159
pretty heavily at night time just to

2200
01:25:24,310 --> 01:25:23,280
deal with the stress of it

2201
01:25:29,510 --> 01:25:24,320
i

2202
01:25:30,790 --> 01:25:29,520
alcohol or tv shows

2203
01:25:33,750 --> 01:25:30,800
just to

2204
01:25:35,030 --> 01:25:33,760
not think about it if it wasn't coming

2205
01:25:37,750 --> 01:25:35,040
if it was a

2206
01:25:41,990 --> 01:25:37,760
night where nothing was happening

2207
01:25:45,830 --> 01:25:42,870
so

2208
01:25:47,830 --> 01:25:45,840
yeah it just wasn't good at all ever

2209
01:25:49,990 --> 01:25:47,840
you know it was just stressed and my

2210
01:25:51,990 --> 01:25:50,000
wife was like you better not bring those

2211
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:52,000
things in the house again i'm like i'm

2212
01:25:57,189 --> 01:25:55,199
not she's like stop stop

2213
01:25:59,910 --> 01:25:57,199
stop googling it stop researching it

2214
01:26:02,390 --> 01:25:59,920
stop looking for them stop talking to

2215
01:26:04,470 --> 01:26:02,400
them right because

2216
01:26:06,790 --> 01:26:04,480
and i'm gonna tell we have about 15

2217
01:26:09,750 --> 01:26:06,800
minutes left so i want to i want to get

2218
01:26:10,629 --> 01:26:09,760
to how you got rid of these guys

2219
01:26:13,110 --> 01:26:10,639
but

2220
01:26:14,149 --> 01:26:13,120
i want to know if there was a part of

2221
01:26:16,310 --> 01:26:14,159
you

2222
01:26:18,070 --> 01:26:16,320
that didn't want them to come

2223
01:26:20,070 --> 01:26:18,080
and then a part of you that did want

2224
01:26:21,990 --> 01:26:20,080
them to come

2225
01:26:24,149 --> 01:26:22,000
yeah i mean you know because you feel

2226
01:26:27,110 --> 01:26:24,159
special there's a part of you that feels

2227
01:26:28,070 --> 01:26:27,120
like oh wow this is happening to me

2228
01:26:29,590 --> 01:26:28,080
and did you feel like you were getting

2229
01:26:31,350 --> 01:26:29,600
any answers did you do you feel like you

2230
01:26:33,270 --> 01:26:31,360
were ever getting any any closer to the

2231
01:26:36,870 --> 01:26:33,280
reason

2232
01:26:38,310 --> 01:26:36,880
uh no it was all one-sided i mean they

2233
01:26:40,550 --> 01:26:38,320
hold the key

2234
01:26:42,149 --> 01:26:40,560
they're in control i cannot emphasize

2235
01:26:44,790 --> 01:26:42,159
that enough

2236
01:26:47,030 --> 01:26:44,800
but you know there

2237
01:26:48,870 --> 01:26:47,040
there's just there's so much more to

2238
01:26:52,629 --> 01:26:48,880
this

2239
01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:52,639
um but to answer your question

2240
01:26:55,990 --> 01:26:54,719
it became too much

2241
01:26:57,189 --> 01:26:56,000
and

2242
01:26:58,310 --> 01:26:57,199
i kind of

2243
01:27:00,310 --> 01:26:58,320
wrapped my head around the fact that

2244
01:27:02,950 --> 01:27:00,320
this is not a good thing these are not

2245
01:27:05,350 --> 01:27:02,960
space brothers come to save us oh and i

2246
01:27:06,310 --> 01:27:05,360
saw one of them one night

2247
01:27:08,149 --> 01:27:06,320
um

2248
01:27:10,229 --> 01:27:08,159
you know and i had heard a voice in my

2249
01:27:12,070 --> 01:27:10,239
head that said uh communication would

2250
01:27:13,430 --> 01:27:12,080
work better if we could do this face to

2251
01:27:15,669 --> 01:27:13,440
face i was like

2252
01:27:17,510 --> 01:27:15,679
could it because i'm not

2253
01:27:19,030 --> 01:27:17,520
so like

2254
01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:19,040
and then people like oh well you must

2255
01:27:23,430 --> 01:27:22,000
have agreed i was like i must not have

2256
01:27:24,950 --> 01:27:23,440
they

2257
01:27:27,990 --> 01:27:24,960
want

2258
01:27:30,070 --> 01:27:28,000
you know and so like

2259
01:27:30,830 --> 01:27:30,080
i saw one one night

2260
01:27:32,390 --> 01:27:30,840
you

2261
01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:32,400
know

2262
01:27:37,030 --> 01:27:34,960
i'll try to answer your question but

2263
01:27:38,149 --> 01:27:37,040
it appeared there was a mist

2264
01:27:39,910 --> 01:27:38,159
you know because i can't speak for my

2265
01:27:40,950 --> 01:27:39,920
wife i can think of myself there's this

2266
01:27:42,470 --> 01:27:40,960
mist

2267
01:27:43,590 --> 01:27:42,480
like i'm i'm sitting there playing video

2268
01:27:45,350 --> 01:27:43,600
games one night it's one o'clock in the

2269
01:27:47,189 --> 01:27:45,360
morning because i'm afraid to go to bed

2270
01:27:49,110 --> 01:27:47,199
i see this little shadow run by the

2271
01:27:51,510 --> 01:27:49,120
window in the door it's a wooden door

2272
01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:51,520
with a square window i ignore it shower

2273
01:27:55,669 --> 01:27:54,000
runs by again i ignore it it was by a

2274
01:27:57,669 --> 01:27:55,679
third time like okay

2275
01:27:59,430 --> 01:27:57,679
is this something weird

2276
01:28:01,990 --> 01:27:59,440
and then there's just this mist just

2277
01:28:04,149 --> 01:28:02,000
molecule by molecule just this mist

2278
01:28:05,590 --> 01:28:04,159
coming in out of nothing

2279
01:28:07,910 --> 01:28:05,600
right in the window

2280
01:28:09,910 --> 01:28:07,920
and it just starts like coalescing

2281
01:28:11,510 --> 01:28:09,920
until it's like

2282
01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:11,520
there's a gray

2283
01:28:16,070 --> 01:28:14,080
and i mean it's as real as there was

2284
01:28:18,149 --> 01:28:16,080
somebody on ufo twitter that drew it for

2285
01:28:19,990 --> 01:28:18,159
me like a police sketch i doodled a

2286
01:28:21,910 --> 01:28:20,000
little thing and i explained it

2287
01:28:23,669 --> 01:28:21,920
it's exactly i mean it looks just like

2288
01:28:25,750 --> 01:28:23,679
it's like i'm looking in the face

2289
01:28:27,669 --> 01:28:25,760
the ridge up its head was a little

2290
01:28:28,950 --> 01:28:27,679
darker than his depiction it was a

2291
01:28:29,830 --> 01:28:28,960
little lighter

2292
01:28:32,149 --> 01:28:29,840
you know

2293
01:28:34,470 --> 01:28:32,159
but it had like a darker ridge went up

2294
01:28:35,910 --> 01:28:34,480
its head but just the eyes were just

2295
01:28:37,750 --> 01:28:35,920
massive like they would have come all

2296
01:28:39,510 --> 01:28:37,760
the way back here had wrinkles around

2297
01:28:41,189 --> 01:28:39,520
his mouth just a little boomerang the

2298
01:28:43,430 --> 01:28:41,199
picture on my twitter looks just like it

2299
01:28:45,189 --> 01:28:43,440
and i was like how do you do that

2300
01:28:47,510 --> 01:28:45,199
that is not the female

2301
01:28:49,270 --> 01:28:47,520
the female i've been talking to that

2302
01:28:51,350 --> 01:28:49,280
i don't okay

2303
01:28:53,350 --> 01:28:51,360
you know and i just like i'm six feet

2304
01:28:55,510 --> 01:28:53,360
away from it and i can see like it's got

2305
01:28:58,390 --> 01:28:55,520
really high hard cheekbones i can like

2306
01:28:59,990 --> 01:28:58,400
see the shadows under the cheekbones

2307
01:29:02,870 --> 01:29:00,000
i'm like six feet away from it i just

2308
01:29:04,629 --> 01:29:02,880
look away and i say no

2309
01:29:06,310 --> 01:29:04,639
you know and i look back and it's not

2310
01:29:08,310 --> 01:29:06,320
there i look out the window my dog's

2311
01:29:10,470 --> 01:29:08,320
just like her hackle was up that ridge

2312
01:29:11,910 --> 01:29:10,480
of hair that runs down

2313
01:29:14,790 --> 01:29:11,920
she's sniffing under the car and

2314
01:29:18,070 --> 01:29:14,800
sniffing the front fender looking around

2315
01:29:20,149 --> 01:29:18,080
i'm just like what in the hell

2316
01:29:22,070 --> 01:29:20,159
and i've replayed that in my mind a

2317
01:29:23,510 --> 01:29:22,080
million times

2318
01:29:24,870 --> 01:29:23,520
what are you doing are you sitting on

2319
01:29:27,430 --> 01:29:24,880
the sofa what are you doing at this

2320
01:29:28,709 --> 01:29:27,440
point sitting on the coffee table

2321
01:29:30,950 --> 01:29:28,719
you're sitting here

2322
01:29:34,310 --> 01:29:30,960
okay close to the tv

2323
01:29:37,750 --> 01:29:35,430
and

2324
01:29:40,310 --> 01:29:37,760
the door was about seven feet away i

2325
01:29:42,390 --> 01:29:40,320
stood up and took a step and i'm six

2326
01:29:44,229 --> 01:29:42,400
feet away from the door

2327
01:29:46,790 --> 01:29:44,239
when i saw this happen

2328
01:29:51,590 --> 01:29:49,669
that that's when i also

2329
01:29:53,750 --> 01:29:51,600
kind of

2330
01:29:56,070 --> 01:29:53,760
went like that's that's not matching up

2331
01:29:58,229 --> 01:29:56,080
with the voice i'm hearing my wife had

2332
01:30:00,870 --> 01:29:58,239
dreams i have to include this she had

2333
01:30:03,910 --> 01:30:00,880
dreams about

2334
01:30:05,590 --> 01:30:03,920
they land there they landed in some big

2335
01:30:07,590 --> 01:30:05,600
city and all these people were clamoring

2336
01:30:10,229 --> 01:30:07,600
to go see it and she heard a voice and

2337
01:30:12,629 --> 01:30:10,239
again she thinks this is all stupid

2338
01:30:14,470 --> 01:30:12,639
she hates all this stuff that this voice

2339
01:30:16,390 --> 01:30:14,480
in her head in the dream says one day

2340
01:30:18,790 --> 01:30:16,400
this is going to happen only you can

2341
01:30:21,750 --> 01:30:18,800
hear us right now and if you choose you

2342
01:30:23,430 --> 01:30:21,760
can get on the craft with us and leave

2343
01:30:24,790 --> 01:30:23,440
and she said

2344
01:30:26,229 --> 01:30:24,800
nope

2345
01:30:27,590 --> 01:30:26,239
so

2346
01:30:29,990 --> 01:30:27,600
i think i have that picture if you want

2347
01:30:31,750 --> 01:30:30,000
if i can put it up on screen here oh wow

2348
01:30:34,950 --> 01:30:31,760
that is awesome man

2349
01:30:36,790 --> 01:30:34,960
yeah this is

2350
01:30:39,030 --> 01:30:36,800
that's scary looking man that's

2351
01:30:40,870 --> 01:30:39,040
identical and you know what it really

2352
01:30:42,550 --> 01:30:40,880
looked old like the wrinkles around its

2353
01:30:45,110 --> 01:30:42,560
mouth were really like

2354
01:30:47,350 --> 01:30:45,120
it looked old and the first thought that

2355
01:30:49,910 --> 01:30:47,360
was in my mind was like zombie like that

2356
01:30:53,270 --> 01:30:49,920
thing is not there's no

2357
01:30:54,950 --> 01:30:53,280
emotion there at all it's just like

2358
01:30:57,110 --> 01:30:54,960
you know it's just

2359
01:30:59,110 --> 01:30:57,120
just zombie

2360
01:31:02,950 --> 01:30:59,120
so

2361
01:31:09,430 --> 01:31:04,470
i did bring it up to my parents

2362
01:31:13,510 --> 01:31:11,510
at dinner and my mom likes to go around

2363
01:31:18,629 --> 01:31:13,520
the table like how did your year ago

2364
01:31:21,750 --> 01:31:19,990
i don't know if i'm being abducted

2365
01:31:23,910 --> 01:31:21,760
violence i don't i've not had regressive

2366
01:31:25,270 --> 01:31:23,920
hypnosis i don't know what's going on

2367
01:31:26,950 --> 01:31:25,280
okay i just know that they're in my

2368
01:31:28,790 --> 01:31:26,960
house i'm seeing them my wife's in we're

2369
01:31:31,270 --> 01:31:28,800
having dreams about the apocalypse

2370
01:31:32,310 --> 01:31:31,280
there's a crap everywhere and orbs

2371
01:31:34,310 --> 01:31:32,320
everywhere

2372
01:31:36,709 --> 01:31:34,320
and from from from what you mentioned

2373
01:31:38,550 --> 01:31:36,719
because i actually called a friend about

2374
01:31:39,350 --> 01:31:38,560
this topic that you just brought up i

2375
01:31:40,709 --> 01:31:39,360
said

2376
01:31:44,550 --> 01:31:40,719
you know

2377
01:31:45,350 --> 01:31:44,560
was on our show who does regressionist

2378
01:31:47,030 --> 01:31:45,360
work

2379
01:31:49,189 --> 01:31:47,040
and she said it has to be something that

2380
01:31:51,350 --> 01:31:49,199
you want i said i don't think david

2381
01:31:52,950 --> 01:31:51,360
wants

2382
01:31:54,629 --> 01:31:52,960
to remember

2383
01:31:57,149 --> 01:31:54,639
oh yeah no

2384
01:32:00,149 --> 01:31:57,159
okay i mean i did some like

2385
01:32:03,189 --> 01:32:00,159
transcendental meditative type

2386
01:32:05,590 --> 01:32:03,199
transit self-induced to try to remember

2387
01:32:08,149 --> 01:32:05,600
and i had some flashes of like being led

2388
01:32:12,470 --> 01:32:08,159
down this long curved hallway

2389
01:32:15,110 --> 01:32:12,480
by this woman alien with black hair uh

2390
01:32:16,149 --> 01:32:15,120
and seeing like arched doors

2391
01:32:17,990 --> 01:32:16,159
and then

2392
01:32:20,149 --> 01:32:18,000
you know being on a table and seeing the

2393
01:32:22,629 --> 01:32:20,159
tops of their little heads but that

2394
01:32:24,390 --> 01:32:22,639
could all be my imagination i don't know

2395
01:32:26,070 --> 01:32:24,400
i don't really put a lot of stock in

2396
01:32:28,229 --> 01:32:26,080
that but i've heard other people

2397
01:32:29,669 --> 01:32:28,239
describe things oh my god that's eerily

2398
01:32:32,310 --> 01:32:29,679
similar

2399
01:32:34,550 --> 01:32:32,320
you know um but but i don't really put a

2400
01:32:35,830 --> 01:32:34,560
lot of stock in that and no i don't want

2401
01:32:37,750 --> 01:32:35,840
regression because one of the things

2402
01:32:40,070 --> 01:32:37,760
that flashed in my mind was like being

2403
01:32:42,390 --> 01:32:40,080
in some kind of chair with a tube down

2404
01:32:45,590 --> 01:32:42,400
my throat and i don't want to know

2405
01:32:47,669 --> 01:32:45,600
what's going on that flash in my head

2406
01:32:49,990 --> 01:32:47,679
that could just be imagination and

2407
01:32:51,270 --> 01:32:50,000
paranoia run wild

2408
01:32:52,790 --> 01:32:51,280
yeah

2409
01:32:54,550 --> 01:32:52,800
and i'm not telling anybody that's what

2410
01:32:56,709 --> 01:32:54,560
happened absolutely

2411
01:32:58,390 --> 01:32:56,719
you know i that's just the flash in my

2412
01:33:00,550 --> 01:32:58,400
mind i don't know i'm not putting you

2413
01:33:01,669 --> 01:33:00,560
don't want to actualize that that into

2414
01:33:05,750 --> 01:33:01,679
your

2415
01:33:07,669 --> 01:33:05,760
you're like oh okay now i remember that

2416
01:33:09,510 --> 01:33:07,679
i i get it i get it i just had to throw

2417
01:33:12,310 --> 01:33:09,520
it i just had to throw it out there just

2418
01:33:14,550 --> 01:33:12,320
find out but i understand and i and i

2419
01:33:16,629 --> 01:33:14,560
want to be rational about it too and say

2420
01:33:18,070 --> 01:33:16,639
that like the voices in my head and the

2421
01:33:19,750 --> 01:33:18,080
dreams

2422
01:33:21,830 --> 01:33:19,760
i have a hard time believing that i have

2423
01:33:24,790 --> 01:33:21,840
a hard time believing i saw a gray i

2424
01:33:26,070 --> 01:33:24,800
believed my wife i know i saw a craft

2425
01:33:28,870 --> 01:33:26,080
and orbs

2426
01:33:30,790 --> 01:33:28,880
and lights that would respond to my

2427
01:33:32,790 --> 01:33:30,800
request

2428
01:33:35,830 --> 01:33:32,800
so i'm at christmas dinner

2429
01:33:38,470 --> 01:33:35,840
breakdown my wife my kids everybody

2430
01:33:40,629 --> 01:33:38,480
leaves the table

2431
01:33:42,390 --> 01:33:40,639
and my dad is just like you know son

2432
01:33:44,070 --> 01:33:42,400
this is not new

2433
01:33:45,990 --> 01:33:44,080
topic this has been going on since i was

2434
01:33:48,470 --> 01:33:46,000
a kid you need to talk to your mother

2435
01:33:50,709 --> 01:33:48,480
because she's had some similar wow

2436
01:33:53,430 --> 01:33:50,719
do not dox my mother by the way for

2437
01:33:55,830 --> 01:33:53,440
anybody listening but she tells me that

2438
01:33:58,790 --> 01:33:55,840
like when she was 19

2439
01:34:00,149 --> 01:33:58,800
she was at a christian camp and she

2440
01:34:01,189 --> 01:34:00,159
heard her wrestling in the closet she

2441
01:34:03,110 --> 01:34:01,199
opened the door there's two little

2442
01:34:05,030 --> 01:34:03,120
silhouettes in there she slammed the

2443
01:34:06,950 --> 01:34:05,040
door shut they pushed back she slammed

2444
01:34:09,189 --> 01:34:06,960
it again ran out to the counselor's

2445
01:34:11,830 --> 01:34:09,199
cabin she said there's little things in

2446
01:34:12,870 --> 01:34:11,840
my closet and he says cecilia those are

2447
01:34:14,629 --> 01:34:12,880
demons

2448
01:34:16,790 --> 01:34:14,639
and they've come to like you know

2449
01:34:18,390 --> 01:34:16,800
manipulate you into not being christian

2450
01:34:20,870 --> 01:34:18,400
anymore

2451
01:34:22,310 --> 01:34:20,880
and then again when she was 37 around

2452
01:34:26,550 --> 01:34:22,320
the time

2453
01:34:27,910 --> 01:34:26,560
that ufo in 1997

2454
01:34:30,790 --> 01:34:27,920
she said she woke up one night there

2455
01:34:33,189 --> 01:34:30,800
were three little short silhouettes at

2456
01:34:34,310 --> 01:34:33,199
each at the bottom right corner upper

2457
01:34:35,430 --> 01:34:34,320
left corner

2458
01:34:36,709 --> 01:34:35,440
up here

2459
01:34:38,310 --> 01:34:36,719
and then there was a man like a

2460
01:34:40,629 --> 01:34:38,320
silhouette of a man he had like a

2461
01:34:42,149 --> 01:34:40,639
staffer rod in his hand he lifted the

2462
01:34:44,470 --> 01:34:42,159
rod up in the air and the three little

2463
01:34:46,550 --> 01:34:44,480
silhouettes disappeared and he proceeded

2464
01:34:47,910 --> 01:34:46,560
to tell her like how she was gonna die

2465
01:34:50,550 --> 01:34:47,920
now if my mother hears this she's gonna

2466
01:34:52,629 --> 01:34:50,560
go oh my god dude what are you doing but

2467
01:34:55,189 --> 01:34:52,639
i mean it's part of it it's it's just

2468
01:34:56,310 --> 01:34:55,199
part of the story it's just part of it

2469
01:34:58,709 --> 01:34:56,320
you know

2470
01:35:00,870 --> 01:34:58,719
also while this is going on

2471
01:35:02,390 --> 01:35:00,880
my brother-in-law catches wind of it he

2472
01:35:05,109 --> 01:35:02,400
practice i don't know if he's jealous or

2473
01:35:07,109 --> 01:35:05,119
if he wants to find us true he practices

2474
01:35:09,270 --> 01:35:07,119
necronomicon sigil magic says he

2475
01:35:11,590 --> 01:35:09,280
conjures a reptilian

2476
01:35:13,910 --> 01:35:11,600
uh uh ends up spending two weeks in the

2477
01:35:16,390 --> 01:35:13,920
mental hospital this is very sensitive

2478
01:35:17,350 --> 01:35:16,400
information i don't want people

2479
01:35:18,870 --> 01:35:17,360
you know

2480
01:35:20,390 --> 01:35:18,880
being like well i need to go talk to him

2481
01:35:22,470 --> 01:35:20,400
and talk to you he's like mind your

2482
01:35:23,830 --> 01:35:22,480
business believe me your tone

2483
01:35:25,350 --> 01:35:23,840
you know he ends up two weeks in the

2484
01:35:28,149 --> 01:35:25,360
mental hospital now i got to deal with

2485
01:35:29,430 --> 01:35:28,159
that and then i'm getting you know i'm

2486
01:35:31,030 --> 01:35:29,440
also getting like followed by

2487
01:35:32,470 --> 01:35:31,040
helicopters

2488
01:35:33,830 --> 01:35:32,480
and there was a guy that followed me

2489
01:35:35,669 --> 01:35:33,840
through a shopping center all the way to

2490
01:35:37,590 --> 01:35:35,679
my car's car just so happen to be parked

2491
01:35:39,109 --> 01:35:37,600
like right next to mine he takes my

2492
01:35:40,790 --> 01:35:39,119
picture from like four feet away and

2493
01:35:43,189 --> 01:35:40,800
just slowly lowers the camera just

2494
01:35:45,030 --> 01:35:43,199
stares at me like that and then it gets

2495
01:35:46,950 --> 01:35:45,040
in his car's little all black car

2496
01:35:49,590 --> 01:35:46,960
convertible pulls off drives off my

2497
01:35:50,950 --> 01:35:49,600
parents house burns down this is all

2498
01:35:52,390 --> 01:35:50,960
happening around the same time on

2499
01:35:53,270 --> 01:35:52,400
facebook i'm getting

2500
01:35:54,709 --> 01:35:53,280
you know

2501
01:35:57,030 --> 01:35:54,719
stalked by this dude that's got a

2502
01:35:59,750 --> 01:35:57,040
profile picture of like a

2503
01:36:01,990 --> 01:35:59,760
trench coat and a gun with a ufo from

2504
01:36:04,149 --> 01:36:02,000
the banner a hundred of my photos get

2505
01:36:05,830 --> 01:36:04,159
liked in a day block them happens again

2506
01:36:07,669 --> 01:36:05,840
the next day with some weird profile

2507
01:36:10,070 --> 01:36:07,679
blocking i don't know if that's

2508
01:36:12,229 --> 01:36:10,080
connected that can all be not connected

2509
01:36:14,149 --> 01:36:12,239
at all but it was happening so i have an

2510
01:36:16,550 --> 01:36:14,159
absolute mental breakdown at christmas

2511
01:36:18,870 --> 01:36:16,560
in 2013. i talked to my dad talked to my

2512
01:36:20,950 --> 01:36:18,880
mother this has to stop my mother's like

2513
01:36:22,390 --> 01:36:20,960
those demons my wife is like david those

2514
01:36:23,910 --> 01:36:22,400
are demons i don't know if they're

2515
01:36:25,189 --> 01:36:23,920
demons or not i don't know if this is

2516
01:36:27,189 --> 01:36:25,199
something good

2517
01:36:29,350 --> 01:36:27,199
i don't know if they enhanced my dna and

2518
01:36:30,470 --> 01:36:29,360
now i can survive on a spaceship if they

2519
01:36:34,390 --> 01:36:30,480
have to take me away during the

2520
01:36:35,270 --> 01:36:34,400
apocalypse i don't know i have no idea

2521
01:36:37,270 --> 01:36:35,280
but

2522
01:36:40,149 --> 01:36:37,280
at this point i'm so strong out that i'm

2523
01:36:42,709 --> 01:36:40,159
like i can't live like this anymore

2524
01:36:45,030 --> 01:36:42,719
so they start praying for me

2525
01:36:46,870 --> 01:36:45,040
they encourage me to get back into the

2526
01:36:48,470 --> 01:36:46,880
bible i

2527
01:36:50,390 --> 01:36:48,480
start in i

2528
01:36:52,390 --> 01:36:50,400
come to terms that this is not a good

2529
01:36:54,470 --> 01:36:52,400
thing

2530
01:36:57,430 --> 01:36:54,480
and these are not

2531
01:37:00,550 --> 01:36:57,440
space brothers come to say this i just

2532
01:37:03,510 --> 01:37:00,560
i'm like okay i take all of my t-shirts

2533
01:37:04,950 --> 01:37:03,520
alien t-shirts alien books

2534
01:37:07,270 --> 01:37:04,960
all this stuff i go to get my

2535
01:37:09,510 --> 01:37:07,280
brother-in-law's black magic books i

2536
01:37:11,510 --> 01:37:09,520
take all that i burn it i invite

2537
01:37:13,669 --> 01:37:11,520
somebody out to the house that's like a

2538
01:37:16,070 --> 01:37:13,679
new age kind of healer she sages the

2539
01:37:18,550 --> 01:37:16,080
house another friend of mine is like a

2540
01:37:21,430 --> 01:37:18,560
new age crystal guy he buries organite

2541
01:37:22,709 --> 01:37:21,440
all in the yard uh i have like church

2542
01:37:25,030 --> 01:37:22,719
pray over me

2543
01:37:27,830 --> 01:37:25,040
uh i met with a pastor i had somebody

2544
01:37:31,270 --> 01:37:27,840
anoint me with oil i started

2545
01:37:36,310 --> 01:37:31,280
practicing um you know

2546
01:37:39,030 --> 01:37:36,320
enochian type stuff to summon archangels

2547
01:37:42,310 --> 01:37:39,040
i took on the christ consciousness

2548
01:37:44,390 --> 01:37:42,320
i was doing i like kundalini rising and

2549
01:37:46,470 --> 01:37:44,400
chakra cleansing and everything i could

2550
01:37:48,550 --> 01:37:46,480
do i stopped drinking

2551
01:37:51,990 --> 01:37:48,560
everything i could do to pull myself out

2552
01:37:54,390 --> 01:37:52,000
of a negative place and that's when

2553
01:37:56,390 --> 01:37:54,400
it started tapering off in the same way

2554
01:37:58,550 --> 01:37:56,400
it came beings left

2555
01:38:01,109 --> 01:37:58,560
craft started leaving little lights in

2556
01:38:02,550 --> 01:38:01,119
the sky and then

2557
01:38:04,950 --> 01:38:02,560
and now it's gone

2558
01:38:06,550 --> 01:38:04,960
and it's still gone

2559
01:38:09,590 --> 01:38:06,560
pick up the wee hours of the morning and

2560
01:38:12,229 --> 01:38:09,600
i'll see something weird and i'm like

2561
01:38:14,550 --> 01:38:12,239
you know what david

2562
01:38:17,109 --> 01:38:14,560
i have a lot of respect for you already

2563
01:38:19,270 --> 01:38:17,119
and i'm gonna tell you why because

2564
01:38:21,270 --> 01:38:19,280
if it were me and they told me i could

2565
01:38:24,950 --> 01:38:21,280
make your hair grow back i would

2566
01:38:28,070 --> 01:38:24,960
probably suffer an abduction for that

2567
01:38:29,430 --> 01:38:28,080
i would if they said we promise you full

2568
01:38:30,390 --> 01:38:29,440
head of hair

2569
01:38:32,550 --> 01:38:30,400
nathan

2570
01:38:34,470 --> 01:38:32,560
this would be it you know

2571
01:38:36,310 --> 01:38:34,480
it'd be tough to say no you got you know

2572
01:38:38,550 --> 01:38:36,320
you you understand where i'm coming from

2573
01:38:43,270 --> 01:38:38,560
that's pretty so that's a pretty sexy

2574
01:38:47,350 --> 01:38:45,189
well i mean i want to echo what dj is

2575
01:38:50,550 --> 01:38:47,360
saying yeah

2576
01:38:53,189 --> 01:38:50,560
sorry a little choked up there but uh

2577
01:38:55,910 --> 01:38:53,199
it takes a ton of guts to do

2578
01:38:58,950 --> 01:38:55,920
to share the story with everybody and um

2579
01:39:00,070 --> 01:38:58,960
i'm sorry for going manic on y'all no

2580
01:39:01,189 --> 01:39:00,080
i i

2581
01:39:03,669 --> 01:39:01,199
i mean

2582
01:39:05,430 --> 01:39:03,679
for me and there's so many layers of the

2583
01:39:07,030 --> 01:39:05,440
story that um

2584
01:39:09,669 --> 01:39:07,040
you know kind of hit me

2585
01:39:12,709 --> 01:39:09,679
but watching you tell it is actually one

2586
01:39:15,270 --> 01:39:12,719
of the most important components of this

2587
01:39:18,310 --> 01:39:15,280
because it's obvious to me

2588
01:39:20,950 --> 01:39:18,320
how uh impactful this experience was to

2589
01:39:22,229 --> 01:39:20,960
you and how difficult it is to to talk

2590
01:39:24,629 --> 01:39:22,239
about it

2591
01:39:27,270 --> 01:39:24,639
so i you know again

2592
01:39:28,470 --> 01:39:27,280
i i really want to thank you for

2593
01:39:30,550 --> 01:39:28,480
for coming on the show to share this

2594
01:39:33,750 --> 01:39:30,560
with everyone and only only because i

2595
01:39:36,550 --> 01:39:33,760
hope that in sharing the story it it

2596
01:39:39,189 --> 01:39:36,560
helps like it helps process this and

2597
01:39:41,189 --> 01:39:39,199
helps you come to peace with it

2598
01:39:43,830 --> 01:39:41,199
that's my hope too i mean that's part of

2599
01:39:46,950 --> 01:39:43,840
why i did it just because

2600
01:39:48,950 --> 01:39:46,960
you know i i cannot just sit down at

2601
01:39:53,669 --> 01:39:48,960
dinner with some friend and be like hey

2602
01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:55,750
like i just don't care

2603
01:39:58,709 --> 01:39:56,639
um

2604
01:40:00,950 --> 01:39:58,719
that's never a good conversation to have

2605
01:40:02,870 --> 01:40:00,960
anywhere in the conversation but it is

2606
01:40:04,629 --> 01:40:02,880
it's

2607
01:40:07,270 --> 01:40:04,639
just not being able to be like dude

2608
01:40:09,669 --> 01:40:07,280
there's aliens flying around doing god

2609
01:40:10,870 --> 01:40:09,679
knows what i don't care

2610
01:40:11,990 --> 01:40:10,880
about

2611
01:40:14,390 --> 01:40:12,000
anything

2612
01:40:15,990 --> 01:40:14,400
i mean i do i do okay and that's why i'm

2613
01:40:17,510 --> 01:40:16,000
thankful for my wife

2614
01:40:18,870 --> 01:40:17,520
because she's very good at just being

2615
01:40:21,189 --> 01:40:18,880
like hey

2616
01:40:23,189 --> 01:40:21,199
the toilet's clogged go fix it

2617
01:40:24,149 --> 01:40:23,199
yeah you have a life here go cut the

2618
01:40:26,870 --> 01:40:24,159
grass

2619
01:40:30,709 --> 01:40:26,880
go feed the horses you know

2620
01:40:32,790 --> 01:40:30,719
focus david so like

2621
01:40:34,950 --> 01:40:32,800
it's difficult and also

2622
01:40:37,030 --> 01:40:34,960
you know i feel like i'm not the only

2623
01:40:38,229 --> 01:40:37,040
one that's been through this

2624
01:40:39,510 --> 01:40:38,239
oh my god

2625
01:40:41,510 --> 01:40:39,520
yeah

2626
01:40:44,149 --> 01:40:41,520
we just we just uh

2627
01:40:45,430 --> 01:40:44,159
learned all about jim sparks very some

2628
01:40:47,750 --> 01:40:45,440
some similar

2629
01:40:50,709 --> 01:40:47,760
experiences to you chris bled so terry

2630
01:40:53,669 --> 01:40:50,719
loveless obviously anjali

2631
01:40:55,430 --> 01:40:53,679
um so yeah you're not alone and by the

2632
01:40:57,430 --> 01:40:55,440
way i want to say this david you look

2633
01:41:01,910 --> 01:40:57,440
very healthy

2634
01:41:05,910 --> 01:41:01,920
well i'll say that

2635
01:41:07,750 --> 01:41:05,920
back to getting rid of them

2636
01:41:10,550 --> 01:41:07,760
um

2637
01:41:13,350 --> 01:41:10,560
that was part of it was like cutting out

2638
01:41:16,709 --> 01:41:13,360
the drinking cutting out the just the

2639
01:41:19,350 --> 01:41:16,719
just the negativity that was in my life

2640
01:41:21,590 --> 01:41:19,360
having to like get out of that was a

2641
01:41:24,070 --> 01:41:21,600
part of it and i still

2642
01:41:26,070 --> 01:41:24,080
continue that to this day like have you

2643
01:41:28,070 --> 01:41:26,080
seen that meme that's got like rocky

2644
01:41:30,470 --> 01:41:28,080
working out it says like introverts

2645
01:41:33,669 --> 01:41:30,480
preparing to make a phone call that's

2646
01:41:36,070 --> 01:41:33,679
exactly what i did before i came here

2647
01:41:39,430 --> 01:41:36,080
to do that because my levels of stress

2648
01:41:41,350 --> 01:41:39,440
and anxiety are that high that i have to

2649
01:41:43,990 --> 01:41:41,360
you know do that and and i do think it's

2650
01:41:46,390 --> 01:41:44,000
a constant battle and i will say

2651
01:41:48,390 --> 01:41:46,400
i'm not against love and light i know

2652
01:41:50,950 --> 01:41:48,400
the story i just told was dark and

2653
01:41:53,430 --> 01:41:50,960
stressful and confusing

2654
01:41:55,270 --> 01:41:53,440
but i'm not against love and light uh

2655
01:41:57,590 --> 01:41:55,280
you know i did

2656
01:42:00,070 --> 01:41:57,600
i did have some experiences and all that

2657
01:42:01,669 --> 01:42:00,080
where i wasn't creeped out and i wasn't

2658
01:42:04,950 --> 01:42:01,679
i didn't feel threatened i just felt

2659
01:42:06,709 --> 01:42:04,960
like they were showing themselves to me

2660
01:42:07,669 --> 01:42:06,719
as almost like a

2661
01:42:11,109 --> 01:42:07,679
a

2662
01:42:12,790 --> 01:42:11,119
consoling kind of thing

2663
01:42:16,070 --> 01:42:12,800
just think of this david like this is

2664
01:42:17,430 --> 01:42:16,080
our yoga room uh and and you can come to

2665
01:42:20,470 --> 01:42:17,440
this space

2666
01:42:21,830 --> 01:42:20,480
uh anytime that you want and uh talk to

2667
01:42:24,310 --> 01:42:21,840
nathan and i

2668
01:42:25,270 --> 01:42:24,320
and uh and let it out there and we will

2669
01:42:27,189 --> 01:42:25,280
welcome

2670
01:42:29,350 --> 01:42:27,199
you to have you on here

2671
01:42:32,070 --> 01:42:29,360
and talk about it it's uh

2672
01:42:34,229 --> 01:42:32,080
it's a beautiful thing um it's not an ex

2673
01:42:36,790 --> 01:42:34,239
it's an experience that a lot of us

2674
01:42:38,870 --> 01:42:36,800
think would be great and some people do

2675
01:42:41,669 --> 01:42:38,880
have some great experiences and some

2676
01:42:42,470 --> 01:42:41,679
people have horrific experiences for

2677
01:42:44,550 --> 01:42:42,480
example

2678
01:42:46,550 --> 01:42:44,560
um

2679
01:42:49,750 --> 01:42:46,560
correct me if i'm wrong nathan chris

2680
01:42:53,270 --> 01:42:49,760
bledsoe said he was healed during his

2681
01:42:56,470 --> 01:42:53,280
first interaction of crohn's disease yet

2682
01:42:58,629 --> 01:42:56,480
anjali spent six hours and said that

2683
01:43:00,950 --> 01:42:58,639
she's not healed yeah

2684
01:43:02,950 --> 01:43:00,960
yeah no it's a mixed bag for sure yeah

2685
01:43:05,350 --> 01:43:02,960
it's it's a very mixed bag i don't think

2686
01:43:07,669 --> 01:43:05,360
they're all the same beings and if

2687
01:43:09,430 --> 01:43:07,679
anjali said as much she said there are

2688
01:43:10,550 --> 01:43:09,440
some beings out there that are not as

2689
01:43:12,550 --> 01:43:10,560
benevolent

2690
01:43:15,270 --> 01:43:12,560
as the beings that uh that she's been

2691
01:43:17,350 --> 01:43:15,280
interacting with and uh the two that

2692
01:43:19,270 --> 01:43:17,360
left the council and then the other four

2693
01:43:22,830 --> 01:43:19,280
and i think that's what got our friend

2694
01:43:26,790 --> 01:43:22,840
uh lampy shout out to uh s a lamping

2695
01:43:28,790 --> 01:43:26,800
1947. um she was very upset by

2696
01:43:31,030 --> 01:43:28,800
uh knowing that there's something out

2697
01:43:31,910 --> 01:43:31,040
there that's uh ominous i would say

2698
01:43:34,070 --> 01:43:31,920
nathan

2699
01:43:35,270 --> 01:43:34,080
yeah you know if i could interject i

2700
01:43:36,709 --> 01:43:35,280
would say

2701
01:43:39,270 --> 01:43:36,719
not evil

2702
01:43:40,310 --> 01:43:39,280
but impartial hmm

2703
01:43:41,350 --> 01:43:40,320
they don't

2704
01:43:43,990 --> 01:43:41,360
care

2705
01:43:46,629 --> 01:43:44,000
yes it's on their it's their playing

2706
01:43:47,910 --> 01:43:46,639
field and you're just kind of like the

2707
01:43:50,229 --> 01:43:47,920
duke

2708
01:43:52,310 --> 01:43:50,239
almost like if an nba team played

2709
01:43:53,830 --> 01:43:52,320
against like a middle school basketball

2710
01:43:56,390 --> 01:43:53,840
team like

2711
01:43:59,109 --> 01:43:56,400
you're not even in the same league and

2712
01:44:01,590 --> 01:43:59,119
they know it and they just don't really

2713
01:44:03,430 --> 01:44:01,600
care it's not evil as much as it's just

2714
01:44:05,430 --> 01:44:03,440
like

2715
01:44:07,590 --> 01:44:05,440
you're not playing by your rules you're

2716
01:44:10,070 --> 01:44:07,600
playing by their rules and

2717
01:44:12,470 --> 01:44:10,080
yeah and uh and i just don't know it's

2718
01:44:14,709 --> 01:44:12,480
also confusing but if if i can get

2719
01:44:16,870 --> 01:44:14,719
outside of my own experience and i just

2720
01:44:19,430 --> 01:44:16,880
try to just because i i just try to

2721
01:44:20,950 --> 01:44:19,440
hammer home i don't know what it all

2722
01:44:22,790 --> 01:44:20,960
means

2723
01:44:26,310 --> 01:44:22,800
i don't know if the dreams and the

2724
01:44:27,590 --> 01:44:26,320
voices correlate i don't know so i'm not

2725
01:44:30,149 --> 01:44:27,600
trying to speculate but if i can

2726
01:44:31,750 --> 01:44:30,159
speculate now i'll say that there's

2727
01:44:34,149 --> 01:44:31,760
multiple beings

2728
01:44:35,030 --> 01:44:34,159
there's a lot going on here i don't know

2729
01:44:36,470 --> 01:44:35,040
why

2730
01:44:38,709 --> 01:44:36,480
because you'll have a debunker it's

2731
01:44:40,470 --> 01:44:38,719
going to be like why why in the world

2732
01:44:43,270 --> 01:44:40,480
would there even be one much less

2733
01:44:44,390 --> 01:44:43,280
multiple i don't know dude i have no

2734
01:44:47,189 --> 01:44:44,400
idea

2735
01:44:49,350 --> 01:44:47,199
you know i wish i knew and maybe that's

2736
01:44:50,229 --> 01:44:49,360
where we're going with all of it

2737
01:44:52,950 --> 01:44:50,239
sure

2738
01:44:55,750 --> 01:44:52,960
i i i want to say for my part that the

2739
01:44:57,990 --> 01:44:55,760
nba versus middle school team actually

2740
01:45:00,790 --> 01:44:58,000
happened last year when kevin durant was

2741
01:45:03,510 --> 01:45:00,800
healthy uh kyrie irving and james harden

2742
01:45:05,030 --> 01:45:03,520
and they were beating teams by 30 until

2743
01:45:07,109 --> 01:45:05,040
one of the two three of them would get

2744
01:45:08,950 --> 01:45:07,119
injured so anyway so we did get to see

2745
01:45:12,390 --> 01:45:08,960
that maybe it was the memphis grizzlies

2746
01:45:14,709 --> 01:45:12,400
just kidding memphis calm down okay

2747
01:45:18,870 --> 01:45:14,719
um no but david i think uh you know to

2748
01:45:20,390 --> 01:45:18,880
kind of bring it to a close uh today

2749
01:45:22,310 --> 01:45:20,400
you know it's

2750
01:45:24,950 --> 01:45:22,320
the timing means something you know i

2751
01:45:26,870 --> 01:45:24,960
think there's a reason why uh you know

2752
01:45:28,390 --> 01:45:26,880
now is the time to tell this story

2753
01:45:30,390 --> 01:45:28,400
there's a reason why we're hearing more

2754
01:45:31,109 --> 01:45:30,400
stories being told

2755
01:45:33,669 --> 01:45:31,119
and

2756
01:45:36,310 --> 01:45:33,679
that reason may not be clear yet but it

2757
01:45:38,070 --> 01:45:36,320
may become clear and i think your

2758
01:45:41,189 --> 01:45:38,080
courage to come forward will encourage

2759
01:45:44,629 --> 01:45:41,199
others to come forward and and and that

2760
01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:44,639
has a accumulative uh power

2761
01:45:49,350 --> 01:45:47,280
that you know will lead to something so

2762
01:45:51,270 --> 01:45:49,360
and i don't know what but i i again i

2763
01:45:53,109 --> 01:45:51,280
want to thank you for for

2764
01:45:54,470 --> 01:45:53,119
being willing to share this story in the

2765
01:45:55,830 --> 01:45:54,480
way that you have and

2766
01:45:57,590 --> 01:45:55,840
and i hope we get a chance to chat with

2767
01:45:59,990 --> 01:45:57,600
you again

2768
01:46:01,750 --> 01:46:00,000
uh yeah i mean let me know i think i've

2769
01:46:04,790 --> 01:46:01,760
just absolutely

2770
01:46:06,310 --> 01:46:04,800
mentally vomited everything that

2771
01:46:08,709 --> 01:46:06,320
happened to me

2772
01:46:12,149 --> 01:46:08,719
so i don't know what more there is to

2773
01:46:15,750 --> 01:46:12,159
say and and diving into all of it is

2774
01:46:18,070 --> 01:46:15,760
clearly like triggering and not a good

2775
01:46:21,350 --> 01:46:18,080
place for me to be mentally

2776
01:46:23,270 --> 01:46:21,360
um but you know i'm always down to chat

2777
01:46:25,990 --> 01:46:23,280
with somebody about it

2778
01:46:29,189 --> 01:46:26,000
you know um and and like you said i do

2779
01:46:31,510 --> 01:46:29,199
agree that part of why i did it is is to

2780
01:46:35,189 --> 01:46:31,520
encourage more people even if you just

2781
01:46:38,870 --> 01:46:35,199
saw an orb or just a triangle

2782
01:46:42,149 --> 01:46:38,880
or or a ghost or something like just

2783
01:46:45,750 --> 01:46:42,159
this does seem to be the time that that

2784
01:46:49,109 --> 01:46:45,760
you know pushback needs to occur

2785
01:46:50,470 --> 01:46:49,119
um because i don't know what lou's up to

2786
01:46:53,430 --> 01:46:50,480
but i like it

2787
01:46:55,510 --> 01:46:53,440
i don't know where this is going but i

2788
01:46:56,790 --> 01:46:55,520
hope that it's going in the direction

2789
01:47:01,350 --> 01:46:56,800
where

2790
01:47:03,669 --> 01:47:01,360
the general public i don't tell my story

2791
01:47:05,590 --> 01:47:03,679
yeah but we do need to start wrapping

2792
01:47:08,629 --> 01:47:05,600
our heads around the fact that this

2793
01:47:09,910 --> 01:47:08,639
isn't chinese drones that's right some

2794
01:47:12,550 --> 01:47:09,920
of it may be

2795
01:47:13,669 --> 01:47:12,560
but i don't think all of it is

2796
01:47:14,550 --> 01:47:13,679
let me

2797
01:47:16,550 --> 01:47:14,560
let's

2798
01:47:18,709 --> 01:47:16,560
let me give you an example of the kind

2799
01:47:20,870 --> 01:47:18,719
of inspiration that you and people like

2800
01:47:23,590 --> 01:47:20,880
you have provided

2801
01:47:25,669 --> 01:47:23,600
i had a chat uh

2802
01:47:28,629 --> 01:47:25,679
online with uh somebody that's coming on

2803
01:47:30,870 --> 01:47:28,639
our show named troy broskovitz he's a

2804
01:47:32,709 --> 01:47:30,880
former pilot from special operations

2805
01:47:35,109 --> 01:47:32,719
somebody that i flew with

2806
01:47:37,189 --> 01:47:35,119
somebody that was a leader of mine

2807
01:47:38,790 --> 01:47:37,199
someone i hold in high regard

2808
01:47:39,750 --> 01:47:38,800
i would never

2809
01:47:44,790 --> 01:47:39,760
ever

2810
01:47:47,430 --> 01:47:44,800
in front of him

2811
01:47:49,590 --> 01:47:47,440
and even now we're gonna

2812
01:47:51,270 --> 01:47:49,600
he's gonna know about my experience he's

2813
01:47:52,790 --> 01:47:51,280
going to come on the air with nathan and

2814
01:47:54,950 --> 01:47:52,800
i and chris lato

2815
01:47:58,629 --> 01:47:54,960
and that would not have happened except

2816
01:48:01,350 --> 01:47:58,639
for i feel bolder i'm emboldened

2817
01:48:03,990 --> 01:48:01,360
because of people like yourself

2818
01:48:05,270 --> 01:48:04,000
so that's what the effect is so i want

2819
01:48:06,870 --> 01:48:05,280
to thank you

2820
01:48:08,390 --> 01:48:06,880
and um

2821
01:48:10,070 --> 01:48:08,400
we're here for you and we really do

2822
01:48:12,470 --> 01:48:10,080
appreciate your time

2823
01:48:14,709 --> 01:48:12,480
people before me doing it you know yeah

2824
01:48:17,430 --> 01:48:14,719
i mean i just i do feel like there's

2825
01:48:18,709 --> 01:48:17,440
like a domino effect happening

2826
01:48:22,070 --> 01:48:18,719
no doubt

2827
01:48:24,709 --> 01:48:22,080
david fravor uh inspired me you know

2828
01:48:27,750 --> 01:48:24,719
many people but i can tell but i've even

2829
01:48:30,149 --> 01:48:27,760
like i like i said even though i came

2830
01:48:33,510 --> 01:48:30,159
out with the story my story

2831
01:48:36,950 --> 01:48:33,520
after david fravor i don't know that

2832
01:48:38,870 --> 01:48:36,960
two weeks ago even i would have called

2833
01:48:41,669 --> 01:48:38,880
troy broskowitz and said hey troy we'd

2834
01:48:44,310 --> 01:48:41,679
like you to come on air and talk about

2835
01:48:46,390 --> 01:48:44,320
aviation and related to ufos

2836
01:48:48,390 --> 01:48:46,400
and that will probably wouldn't have

2837
01:48:51,109 --> 01:48:48,400
happened but i'm inspired by people that

2838
01:48:54,229 --> 01:48:51,119
are coming out and talking so

2839
01:48:55,910 --> 01:48:54,239
thank you so much um seriously it just

2840
01:48:58,070 --> 01:48:55,920
occurred to me that it's more than just

2841
01:49:00,149 --> 01:48:58,080
the three of us

2842
01:49:02,950 --> 01:49:00,159
that's right yes we're on youtube right

2843
01:49:05,189 --> 01:49:02,960
now so uh thank you i want to say so let

2844
01:49:07,350 --> 01:49:05,199
me just say a couple things before we

2845
01:49:10,870 --> 01:49:07,360
let nathan go and then we're going to

2846
01:49:14,149 --> 01:49:10,880
make our uh memorial to kevin p

2847
01:49:17,910 --> 01:49:14,159
childress the retired doe special agent

2848
01:49:20,870 --> 01:49:17,920
whom we lost out of ufo hashtag ufo

2849
01:49:23,350 --> 01:49:20,880
twitter i want to say i love you guys

2850
01:49:25,510 --> 01:49:23,360
um i realized that we do have some

2851
01:49:27,589 --> 01:49:25,520
scraps and some arguments there you can

2852
01:49:28,790 --> 01:49:27,599
just see what david just there showing a

2853
01:49:31,189 --> 01:49:28,800
peace sign

2854
01:49:32,709 --> 01:49:31,199
um please treat him and his story with

2855
01:49:35,430 --> 01:49:32,719
love and respect

2856
01:49:38,390 --> 01:49:35,440
and i really appreciate

2857
01:49:41,030 --> 01:49:38,400
what this community has given to my life

2858
01:49:42,470 --> 01:49:41,040
so for david p lanier

2859
01:49:44,470 --> 01:49:42,480
for nathan

2860
01:49:47,589 --> 01:49:44,480
away soul on

2861
01:49:48,790 --> 01:49:47,599
ufo twitter this is dj san marco saying